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Posted February 28, 2014
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Telika: numbering four mafia suspects as if the first one was implicit
But isn't the first scum already known? SPF?
Posted February 28, 2014
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Telika: numbering four mafia suspects as if the first one was implicit
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DarkoD13: But isn't the first scum already known? SPF?
Oh. D'uh.

Yeah. Hm. So there is nothing specific against Rod. It'd be really about lynching a neutral read, in order to clarify a scummy read.

Not sure it's a good idea at all, actually.
Posted February 28, 2014
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Telika: Oh. D'uh.

Yeah. Hm. So there is nothing specific against Rod. It'd be really about lynching a neutral read, in order to clarify a scummy read.

Not sure it's a good idea at all, actually.
For the record, this is the second time during this day that you're twisting something so it will fit a theory of yours.
Posted February 28, 2014
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Telika: Oh. D'uh.

Yeah. Hm. So there is nothing specific against Rod. It'd be really about lynching a neutral read, in order to clarify a scummy read.

Not sure it's a good idea at all, actually.
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DarkoD13: For the record, this is the second time during this day that you're twisting something so it will fit a theory of yours.
When did I do that ?
Posted February 28, 2014
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Telika: When did I do that ?
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_19_a_slalom_mafia/post1353
Posted February 28, 2014
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Telika: When did I do that ?
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DarkoD13: http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_19_a_slalom_mafia/post1353
You really find this conclusive ? You mean that, to you, this excludes that it can be related to an "unrestricted commuter" ?
Posted February 28, 2014
hmm.. good point. I have had Telika as one of my high candidates for scum, and I would also be happy to get behind a wagon on him if we can not get one on Red or me. But I do feel that we need to have one wagon very quickly now.
Posted February 28, 2014
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Telika: I'll cast my vote on Rodzaju. I do think that Nmillar is a mafia jailer, but he's a bit protected by his role, as there is a risk to deprive town of a power. However, Rodzaju/TwilightBard provided an alibi to Frances Page, whether a real one or a fake one (he provided it only after having thought we had lynched the one we had thought could check its veracity). So, I see Rodzaju as a way to clear or condemn the jailer.
Rather than provide an alibi (Though it also does that), I saw my "thing that cannot be mentioned" as potentially inferring how the keys were aqquired.

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Telika: I'm not a huge fan of my vote, as there is little to support Rod's guilt by itself. There is that straightforward alibi provided at a strange time, there is one possible slip (possibly meaningless) about numbering four mafia suspects as if the first one was implicit (would a mafioso make a freudian slip about numbering possible accomplices instead of a separate mafia group), but this may be a far-fetched interpretation.
My naming 4 suspects is very straightforward.
I suspect that there are 4 scum.
We know scum 1 (SPF).
I named my "most likely scum 2 & 3"
I then said that, if there is a 4th, it is likely either CSVPG or Flub.

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Telika: There has been Twilight's lurking but then the replacement shows that it wasn't a mere strategy. And Rod's reaction to ski investigation mirrored Nmillar's (a reaction I find very strange but which seems shared by many layers). So, real crumbles. Not a case.
I actually have no idea what you are talking about here.

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Telika: But : Nmillar. I think that Nmillar and Rod are on the same team, whether town or mafia. So, for me, that'd be two flips for the price of one. I think it's the best strategy for now.

Now, if Rod happened to answer positively to the following question, though, it could mean a little avalanche of townie almost-confirmation, to my eyes. And without any lynch.

Rodzaju, do you consider yourself responsible for the presence of a reluctant relative in that chalet ?
I am not certain about this.
My Role pm mentions a few relatives but does not mention whether or not they are here.
Looking through the list of names, I suspect not.

But there is someone who IS here.
While not specifically stated as a relative, they are mentioned in a context that SUGGESTS they are related.
I BELIEVE the person mentioned is older than me, female & related by either blood or marriage.
Posted February 28, 2014
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Telika: You really find this conclusive ? You mean that, to you, this excludes that it can be related to an "unrestricted commuter" ?
It is conclusive when you're arguing mafia commuter with "a shelter-or-nightkill balance", unless I'm missing something. You're just throwing it all together even when they don't fit.
Posted February 28, 2014
For the record, and this is based on gut feeling, I think that the remaining mafia is Red + Telika and/or Rod. They are closely followed by P1na, nmillar, JMich and RSVP, followed by the rest.
Posted February 28, 2014
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Telika:
Sorry, missed the "Reluctant" part.

I have nothing to state that she was reluctant to come.
But she is certainly presented as unhappy now that she is here.
Posted February 28, 2014
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Rodzaju: Rather than provide an alibi (Though it also does that), I saw my "thing that cannot be mentioned" as potentially inferring how the keys were aqquired.
It doesn't confirm my alignment though, so not really an alibi ...
Posted February 28, 2014
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Rodzaju: Rather than provide an alibi (Though it also does that), I saw my "thing that cannot be mentioned" as potentially inferring how the keys were aqquired.
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nmillar: It doesn't confirm my alignment though, so not really an alibi ...
We it does say you were busy at the "ESTIMATED" time of the kill....
Posted February 28, 2014
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Telika: You really find this conclusive ? You mean that, to you, this excludes that it can be related to an "unrestricted commuter" ?
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DarkoD13: It is conclusive when you're arguing mafia commuter with "a shelter-or-nightkill balance", unless I'm missing something. You're just throwing it all together even when they don't fit.
So, if it was, say, footsteps every morning, and someone told you they can go out every night, you'd take the "every" litterally enough to infer either an obligation to do it every night, or an unrelatedness ?

Let's put it differently : are you claiming that you're forced to commute every night ? Or are you claiming that you are not, and therefore such tracks (interpreted forced to appear every night) wouldn't be yours ?

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Telika: There has been Twilight's lurking but then the replacement shows that it wasn't a mere strategy. And Rod's reaction to ski investigation mirrored Nmillar's (a reaction I find very strange but which seems shared by many layers). So, real crumbles. Not a case.
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Rodzaju: I actually have no idea what you are talking about here.
Yeah, nevermind. This may yet be another confusion, with another player. What was your stance on "ski ability" investigation ?

As for the reluctant relative thing, no, it's not that indeed. I would expect either Vitek, JMich or Red_Baron to respond then (or at least understand what it's about). So what I'm saying is that one of them has a high flavor-based probability to be town.
Posted February 28, 2014
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Telika: ...
I do commute every night, but I don't have any mention of skiing in my PMs, so I still don't believe I'm the one this refers to. But I do have to point out the inconsistency when you're using that particular clue to say that I could be a mafia commuter and choose to nightkill or seek shelter, when the clue specifically mentions tracks every day. Or if you do believe that "every" is a mistake, the same reasoning could be applied to "ski tracks". How does taking only specific parts of the clue as true make any sense and how is that not twisting the clue to fit it into a theory?
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