DarkoD13: I'm not saying you shouldn't do that or that it's hurts the game (it actually helps with the activity), but I can't see myself voting for Telika based solely on his interactions with SPF (correct me if that's not what you're arguing). Is there any other reason you suspect Telika and what do you think of his questions towards flub?
I find it as quite significant thing. It is big part of what this game should be about. (Interactions between players, that's why flips are important.)
It's mostly it, but minor points is his reaction to it and his role fishing earlier.
I don't see what is the questioning of flub trying to achieve and if it has any usefulness.
Edit after reading more: Where the hell was it going? Telika wanted to know if flub visited him, he denied it, then questioned his drinking and just abandoned it afterwards (unless I missed it)
Then you mentioned flub as towny for offering to get himself lynched (that's really huge town tell for him btw.) and later he is possibility for your scumlist?
Red_Baron: It might be a bit excessive, but looking through the posts you linked they are not all him hunting amok - which skews the pure outlook of it. Still I must agree with you that he have been hunting him, though in my mind a lot less than I have, and as already said I have seen and Rodzaju made a mention of this as well, that hunting each other does not equal that they can't both be scum, even more so considering Amok's actions. Still several of the posts are fairly direct which does paint that he wants to lynch him. However I still can't shake the notion that Amok should be lynched. That he never said anything about Telika, well I had the idea that Telika was town for most of the game and as such I guess you will only find recent posts that mentions him in another connection, still given his confirmed scum status it is worth noting.
Just take a look at the previous game (lot of you played there so you can just remember) and tell me if SirPrimalform is one to easily bus his buddies. Even more when it's basically the start of game and was first voting him.
(Funny thing is, I spent half of game defending amok, while I suspected him but for different reasons than those I as fighting against)
Red_Baron: While the first two of those posts relate to mod killing and as such I consider them perfectly fine posts to argue no matter his alignment, ...
Town doesn't have to act as concerned person, he just is concerned. Mafia, on the other hand, is more likely to say such things, trying to pose as town.
Red_Baron: Haha :D Brilliant - though not the point. I am not trying to get him inside, I want to shoot him and discover if he is actually a wolf. Glad to see Rodzaju is picking up on this, though given that he replaced Twilightbard to my knowledge? I am not entirely certain what to make of it.
I hope you won't ever come across herd of elephants, you bloody bastard. :-p
Red_Baron: But in regard to the other points, I don't argue that I am the only scum hunting,
I on the other hand argue that you were not scum hunting at all most of game, you were just going after policy or informational lynches.
Fuck, I touched inside of my nose with finger covered in wasabi and it burns as hell.
Telika: Can you find us where this is established ?
Funny, it's you asking him this. It was you who claimed it back on D1 and when I wanted to hear where'd you get it and you found it didn't ever happen.
Ah, mentioned by you later. So why you even asked it instead of just directly explaining it?
Red_Baron: Haha :D Yea, still same as before - while I am certain scum is making use of those ingrained tendencies to avoid no-lynch and to lynch liars I still hold by that Town does not lie and that lynches are required for town to win, even if it also causes us to fail if lead by scum. I am beginning to see why you are after me though, which is great since that is pretty much the first time in the entire game :P Also great to see that you have finally begun considering other players enough to vote for them.
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Oh I agree. Glad to see that you have begun doing that after +1200 posts ;) That said, you are likely also one of the most active, which is why I am still not sure where to place you :) Still you haven't actually specifically stated why you find me suspect, you have only alluded to it.
That's so much not true. I voted you for your neutral hunting, for no scum hunting and for attempting to get policy or information lynch instead of killing mafia. Other things added themselves later.
Funny thing regarding this is that I first called you out for voting Zchinqe when you were voting him together with SPF, our confirmed scum, and I only called his reasons bad and yours Icalled horrible. ;-)
Red_Baron: Ah anyway, caught back up. Conclusion, I am still perfectly willing to lynch Amok - however present preferences would be JMich (lynch those he believe town to confirm it) or CSPVG (a useless cop? A jailer and a flavor cop?).
You missed out unrestricted commuter and already dead reflector.
To avoid painful prod from our ever diligent mod. ;-)
Red_Baron: Vitek: What was his gender? Do we even know it?
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Why do you care and why should I share?
I really don't like that someone is able to find scents or what.
Who knows, it could lead to identifying someone? Sounds quite useful for mafia and doesn't make me too willing to trust Pina.
(Different parts of post were written in different tabs so pardon me if I switched order somewhere)
