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Red_Baron: Ah yes, great to see you took a plunge there and committed suicide, but heck I guess there is a minor chance that Joe forgot that my role is female.... So how "HE" was not in his room is a very good question, another very good question is that since I haven't received any pm other than the number thing I find myself being puzzled by this claim. Even more so since I had you somewhat pecked as town.
You know full well that I was referring to you the player rather than your character when I said, "he".

In any case, when the gender of a person is unknown, the default term to use to describe that person is the masculine one, which in this case is "he" and the night result PM does not mention your agenda.

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Red_Baron: I thought we had conclusively decided what would happen if Pazzer was town? Guess we are also dropping that in favor of the usual; RB must be scum because... I don't actually know, lets just say he did something, be proven wrong and still insist that he is scum". But it is truly great to see all this suspicion I am gathering from the same people without any of them yet to post any good reasons for it. Worst part it, one of them got to be town...as more than 3 scum or 2 scum teams sounds unlikely.
Considering that one member of the scum team has already been eliminated, it would be absolute suicide to fake a night result - a guaranteed second scum lynch today or tomorrow and leaving just one member to try and survive the rest of the game? I don't think so - this would only make sense if all members of the scum team were still alive.
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Red_Baron: I thought we had conclusively decided what would happen if Pazzer was town?
What was that, and why, already ?
I of course meant, "gender" at the end of the second paragraph in my previous post.
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Red_Baron: Great we started again

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nmillar: I decided to jail Red_Baron, but he wasn't in his room. My understanding of the jailkeeper role is there are only two reasons for it not to be successful. The first would be a roleblocker. However, I would have expected some kind of flavour to suggest my attempt to jailkeep was blocked. As I didn't, the only other possibility is a mafia strong arm.
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Red_Baron: Ah yes, great to see you took a plunge there and committed suicide, but heck I guess there is a minor chance that Joe forgot that my role is female.... So how "HE" was not in his room is a very good question, another very good question is that since I haven't received any pm other than the number thing I find myself being puzzled by this claim. Even more so since I had you somewhat pecked as town.
did you really expect that he would be given back info on your character? this seems a bit desperate...

vote Red_Baron
1064 is amazing post. Vote Red_Baron.
Yes clearly Vote: Red_Baron
Grea,t and when I flip town, you'll lynch nmillar :D Looks good for town if nmillar is indeed truthful, then thats another powerole.. Hence my comitting suicide act.

Because yea, why would you do this if scum? Well since you could count on several being willing to vote without a second thought I might be an easy lynch, which gives another town dead, then a nightkill and well if there is more than 3 scum we have pretty much lost already - even more so if nmillar is just a crazy town, then this can be used to lynch nmillar the next day.

Honestly, its amazing that it is still the same people, every day voting without considering what happened during the night, what happens during the day (Vitek never voting in the lynch), who was lynched and what their opinion was. Note how the proven town Rob was one for LaL? Note how amok is still alive? Note how Vitek defended him several times? And who do we have voting, well the usual line-up: amok is voting me because I was willing to vote for him, Vitek is voting due to.. well he is voting, no matter that he just explained his reasons away with not having given them yet, flubbucket is voting because.. well he made a bullshit case against me earlier, so why bother thinking of anything (such as any flavor or related fluff one normally gets when targeting someone).
So I guess nmillar's "result" is what they needed in order to vote for be without actually being able to show anything as to why. Problem is, either he is a role that gets fake results or he is lying. If it is the former; he is useless, if the latter then those voting right now and who are actually town, is just being so helpful to scum that they are causing themselves to lose.

So yea, its word against word - but trust me - my role would have huge problems being able to go out at night, and ski tracks? Well mine can't (would find it impossible) as already said earlier in response to Telika. I guess the same thing would count in regards to the act of killing in any way that required physical afford...or going out at night... so forth. So any fluff from this so I can see if you are a crazy jailer(whatever a jailer with fake results get, if that role even exists) or scum nmillar?

@nmillar: Any flavor for this or did you just see I was not home.. and nothing else? That sounds highly unlikely given the usual format. My thought is that the most effective scenario is to use block ability on day one, to claim jailer, then not use it the next, but still claim a target - a scum or multiple others. As town I see no reason for you to lie about a result, so that leaves only that you gain fake results or was redirected. As such scum appear more likely.

@Telika: I was referring to the deal made yesterday that if Pazzer was town, flubbucket was next? Guess that got fucked over, just like LaL and so forth. So it is pretty darn convenient that only town suffers from all of this.
Did you get a post when he targeted you? Also I assume you find the options as to why he is scum and would do this quite limited as well due to the assumed amount of scum left? I don't, since he'll likely end up lynching me and given our previous history in this game of never following up on anything from an earlier day it will only have consequences if he is actually town that just gets fake results.

@Amok (Post 1069): Yea, I did - cause that is what usually happens when you target someone - got see their house, you get their gender so forth - related fluff material. And he made his post in a paraphrased way where I would have used that persons name as it usually is done.


Yea.. if we don't start lynching those people who have yet to act as town just once.. well town might as well just commit suicide all around. Oh and Vitek in the very very small chance that you are town; take note of this game next time and use that to note several things: How meta does not actually say anything about my faction, how not to play if you want town to win, but how to play if you want scum to win (I am truly curious as to the setup for this, it does not feel as if there has been the normal amount of town players).
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Red_Baron: @Telika: I was referring to the deal made yesterday that if Pazzer was town, flubbucket was next? Guess that got fucked over, just like LaL and so forth. So it is pretty darn convenient that only town suffers from all of this.
There would be a point in doing that if pazzer's initial claim was truthful, but his flip proved that he wasn't a cop (so his "flub's not town" was made-up), but a lyncher.

As to the gender thing, you have mentioned multiple times that you're a woman, so it would be a pretty stupid move on nmillar's part if he was to do a fake claim like that without doing some homework first.

Still, I don't see why people completely ignore your inclusion in SPF's list. Do they think it's a bluff?
This is mostly addressed to Vitek since he seems to have cleared nmillar based on SPF's list/votes.

Red_Baron, is there any reason why you wouldn't be in your room during the night?

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nmillar: but he wasn't in his room
Is that the exact wording? You weren't sidetracked yourself or anything like that?
Erm, you should probably all lynch me. I've made a massive balls up.
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DarkoD13: Still, I don't see why people completely ignore your inclusion in SPF's list. Do they think it's a bluff?
This is mostly addressed to Vitek since he seems to have cleared nmillar based on SPF's list/votes.
I addressed it in my last post. ;-) The one with vote.
His scum list consists of nmillar, claimed jailkeeper, the same nmillar SPF tried to lynch after his claim, then amok, who was SPF main target for 90% of game, then dead player who flipped mafia already and who I don't recall RB ever mention as suspect before, me and last flub with only question mark while he claims he should be proven by pazzer's flip (which is not true).

Add to it not addressing nmillar's accusation and instead trying to pull strawman and deflect to nmillar instead.
Post is ended with dismissing everyone voting him as having no reason, while I have said many reasons over time and nmillar's reason is apparent.
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nmillar: Erm, you should probably all lynch me. I've made a massive balls up.
May I ask for more info?
I was convinced I'd targeted Red_Baron last night, but it was actually DarkoD13.

Unvote Red_Baron, vote DarkoD13.

Fully expect to be lynched now due to my balls up, but for the record I jailed Telika on Night 1 and DarkoD13 on Night 2.

The good news is that scum have probably jumped on the bandwagon that's been the result of my mistake, so remaining scum list:

DarkoD13
amok
How can you not know who you targeted, goddamit!?!?
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Vitek: How can you not know who you targeted, goddamit!?!?
I submitted my intended night target very early, then had to wait 4 days for the new day to begin. When it began, my first thought was, "oh yeah, Red_Baron's the scummy one - I must have jailed him last night". I was wrong. Thankfully, I checked my PMs before Red_Baron got lynched.
I wint to publik skools, but at leest thay maded us doo reedingz.

Unvote:Red_Baron


Awesome manifesto from Red_Baron though ...+1