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Hmm, I was thinking of changing my vote to Robbeasy anyway. The case he's been pushing is dodgy and he won't reply to my questions, maybe now he will?
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Telika: QUADRALIEN has now replaced KKREO
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amok: NOOOOOOO!!!!

Now I must read all the posts again and really look for scum players, it was easier when I could just vote to kick the inactive...
To be fair, given my usual rate of activity it might not be long before you could do that anyway. :P

Anyway, I'd better try and see if I can make sense of the current situation, as it seems once again we're already getting into the swing of things just as I turn up. I'd say give me a moment, but quite frankly it's 12:30 and I'd like to get some sleep first. :)
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Vitek: I don't want to neessarily kill him this time (maybe... >_>), but I want to know if it is possible.

I am still sad I missed it last time. :-(
So is this "scum hunting?"

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gkaiser: Oh, certainly. I'm the new kid on the block, and I don't know anyone. At all. My votes are cast at random, because I have no reason NOT to suspect anyone - and what may be construed as bandwagon-jumping is in fact me looking up to my virtual elders because it's a given they have a better idea of who is generally suspicious around here.

Right now the only person I know is not a mafioso is myself. Just your friendly neighborhood paranoid fella here, who also finds it highly disturbing that the guy that could save our lives was the first one to bite it.
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Vitek: CSPVG asked you to explain your vote and I see no explaantion here.

@CSPVG; I suspect it could be 2+1 (2mafia + 1SK) setup but it can be anything. Although it's weird, speculating about it helps us in no way right now.

@Joe; Have you, in any game we played together, ever, at laast once considered me to be not mafia aligned? :-)

OT: I was able to read this thread by reading different. It was white, I even had reply here, but I read other thread first and when I returned to General Discussion this thread was already gray and without reply.
The bold/underlined statement "helps us in no way right now." and yet you still made the assertion there are only two scum and a serial killer. Why are you setting things up like this?? You aren't stupid and so I must presume your plan to put a serial killer in the game must have a reason. You move back and forth with theories. You interject things and then say they aren't really important. Sounds to me like you are playing the long game and setting things up for later.


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amok: New idea, I have read too many Agatha Christie books. The doctor is the 12'th invisible player. He did not really die (there is not body), he is just hiding.
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Vitek: I hope he won't return. We have enough to worry about even without bloated zombie running around.

"And, as his blood on the ship's rail has been carefully wiped off and his body immerged miles ago,..."
Who is saying zombie and referencing the doctor in this post??


Oh, and welcome QuadrAlien. I see Vitek is already accusing you of being scum..........how charming.
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gkaiser: Oh, certainly. I'm the new kid on the block, and I don't know anyone. At all. My votes are cast at random, because I have no reason NOT to suspect anyone - and what may be construed as bandwagon-jumping is in fact me looking up to my virtual elders because it's a given they have a better idea of who is generally suspicious around here.

Right now the only person I know is not a mafioso is myself. Just your friendly neighborhood paranoid fella here, who also finds it highly disturbing that the guy that could save our lives was the first one to bite it.
I'm not going to vote you for now, but this does make you look very suspect in my eyes.

At this point in day one, when at least a few different conversations have take place, you should be able to come up with at least one person that you find suspicious, and give us reasoning as to why you find them so.

Furthermore, the idea that anyone should know who is '...generally suspicious around here.' is fallacious. Each of these mafia games is an independent event, therefore each mafia team is an independent event. So it is useless to speculate whom the guilty party is in this game, based on experience of how said party played in a previous game.

Moving on:

SirPrimalForm: I began to laugh at that joke, and then bitter tears streamed down my face. I walked into that one.

Also, and this is off-topic, but I forgot to congratulate you on your new job.

In general: I'm a bit baffled by the fact that we're still talking about Vitek's role-claim. I only brought it up, as I had my grumpy serious pants on that day. It now seems fairly innocuous to me.

In closing, I think it's about time for a thread re-read.
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Vitek: I hope he won't return. We have enough to worry about even without bloated zombie running around.

"And, as his blood on the ship's rail has been carefully wiped off and his body immerged miles ago,..."
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flubbucket: Who is saying zombie and referencing the doctor in this post??
What exactly are you trying to say here?
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QuadrAlien: [...]
An unknown quantity. Welcome! :D
Do you enjoy long walks on the beach? What's your favorite food? Favorite beverage?
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SirPrimalform: Hmm, I was thinking of changing my vote to Robbeasy anyway. The case he's been pushing is dodgy and he won't reply to my questions, maybe now he will?
Could you please repeat the questions, as i seem to have missed them, and please explain why my case is 'dodgy'..?

Thanks ever so much.
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flubbucket: Who is saying zombie and referencing the doctor in this post??
That is just ridiculous. He clearly says it as part of his his dismissal of the idea. With the way you're both trying to cook up dodgy cases against Vitek I wonder if you're on then same team?
EBWOP: In the previous post I say both without mentioning who the other person is. It is of course Robbeasy. :P

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SirPrimalform: Hmm, I was thinking of changing my vote to Robbeasy anyway. The case he's been pushing is dodgy and he won't reply to my questions, maybe now he will?
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Robbeasy: Could you please repeat the questions, as i seem to have missed them, and please explain why my case is 'dodgy'..?

Thanks ever so much.
Twice now I've asked you to elaborate on your accusation of backtracking. If I had cause to backtrack, what was my initial motivation for 'accusing him' of being mafia role blocker? Your case seems to be built on the assumption that I'm scum with Vitek, in which case what exactly was the motivation for me bringing attention to Vitek's 'genuine' softclaim and then backtracking on that by saying it was a joke? This is where your case doesn't make any sense to me.
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flubbucket: Who is saying zombie and referencing the doctor in this post??
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amok: What exactly are you trying to say here?
Well what is Vitek saying here?? He claims to have never said something and I'm trying to see fact from fiction in his posts.

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amok: ...........................<snip>.............................



You are just creating fake accusations.
In no way was the living doctor my idea and contrary to what you are saying, I did exact opposite and dismissed it as crap.


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His statements seem to be random. So I'm quoting him and asking who was saying zombie. He clearly did but it's not why I'm voting for him. He just seems to be unable to tell the same story twice. I'm not making these posts up, he is saying things and I'm asking him why.

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flubbucket: Who is saying zombie and referencing the doctor in this post??
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SirPrimalform: That is just ridiculous. He clearly says it as part of his his dismissal of the idea. With the way you're both trying to cook up dodgy cases against Vitek I wonder if you're on then same team?
Again I'm asking why he said zombie in reference to the doctor and he denies saying it. What's the issue?? Can't I ask him to tell the same story twice?? I'm not concerned with the whole soft-claim thingy. I saw his slip referring to town as if he were an outsider and I asked him. I'm surprised he hasn't denied saying that as well!!!
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flubbucket: Again I'm asking why he said zombie in reference to the doctor and he denies saying it. What's the issue?? Can't I ask him to tell the same story twice?? I'm not concerned with the whole soft-claim thingy. I saw his slip referring to town as if he were an outsider and I asked him. I'm surprised he hasn't denied saying that as well!!!
Right, but you were calling the zombie thing his "theory". It's pretty clear that it's not a theory, it's a dismissal. I also don't see him directly denying saying anything about zombies, he said:
In no way was the living doctor my idea and contrary to what you are saying, I did exact opposite and dismissed it as crap.
...which is completely true. He was dismissing it as crap and he doesn't deny mentioning zombies.

Now I don't deny that there are a couple of things that Vitek has done that can be interpreted as suspicious (especially together), but he's quite clearly not denying the things you say he is.
Okay, you guys got me.

I'm just a scared little escape artist that just wants to survive, no matter who it takes to hide behind.

I didn't make it all the way here to die...
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gkaiser: Okay, you guys got me.

I'm just a scared little escape artist that just wants to survive, no matter who it takes to hide behind.

I didn't make it all the way here to die...
Wait, is this a claim?
OK, that's enough. You are just lying and slinging mud at me to discredit me and there is nothing pro-town about this.
Vote flubbucket.
I agree, flubbucket is trying to hard now to prove something which just is not there.

Vote flubbucket