Orryyrro: Illogical in context of this game and what has happened so far, or illogical in general?

Because if you think the latter, multiple mafia isn't unheard of, not as common as a single mafia but it does happen.

Cruward_Darkeyes: Well i was thinking the later but since iv heard a couple of peapol saying they thort mafia was underpowered because of the large number of believed town power roles i guess it wouldn't make it any more fair for them if they had to fight each other to

Red_Baron: snip...

And in responds to what Robbeasy wrote:

For now I will keep considering it as one mafia and then keep speculations about multiple and how that could mean that the doc role is scum somewhere far back in my head, as its not important as far as I can see it.

However the point I made, if you look at it another way, as I've already said: Is far more interesting. As it reveals something about the night-actions instead of useless wifom. Of course its based on flavor, but there has to my experience always been a relation if its the same killer, when the night kill flavor is posted.

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Red_Baron: Wondering if you could quote or find the post that states that? Because how would you/whomever wrote it know that we have many powers roles? I've personally only seen Rodzaju, which were only a power-role if another role died (one of two specific roles), and through him we know of a doctor and a cop. Thats not too unusual. Oh and we had two lovers thats right. I don't really see the staggering amount of power roles that would justify stating that the mafia is weak.

bazilisek: First, I have one piece of information I really shouldn't be sitting on: I can confirm jefequeso is the other lover. Because I protected him tonight, and Violator was quite generous with the flavour. Let me paraphrase:

I found her on the streets, and she looked terrible. Very tired, with a wound (a small one, apparently) on the back of her head, clear signs of drugs in the eyes; she was wearing a very tight black dress. She protested, but I took her to the hospital, stitched the wound and gave her sleeping pills, as it looked like she hadn't slept at all since Rico was killed. She took them and fell asleep quickly; I brought her to the bed in my room to be sure nothing happens to her in the night.

I'd really like to know where that wound on the head came from -- any input there, jefe? I also don't know if the black dress is just fluff or if it is supposed to have any significance (Mourning colours? Sexing it up to try to forget?). Incidentally, I also learned jefe's first name in the flavour, and for fact-checking purposes, I think I can reveal that it begins with an L.

So yes, s/he definitely is Rico's lover, and the suicide story does check out with what I know.

Second thing worth mentioning: we have all noticed tonight's kill is different from the previous one, but before jumping to conclusions, please consider the really basic fact that even in bog-standard setups, the kill may be carried out by any of the mafia goons, which could very easily explain different methods without the need to introduce multiple mafias into the mix.

That's it for now; I really have to reread the thread.

jefequeso: I'm not sure if it's dangerous to ask or not, so feel free to not answer...but why DID you protect me?

bazilisek: No, I don't think it's dangerous. I had various smaller reasons. The thing with a paranoid doc/jailkeeper is that you can play it offensively or defensively. I had you high on my list of suspects, so I thought there was a chance that you are scum and that you would be performing the kill tonight -- that was the offensive aspect. But it was only a hunch; from the mafia perspective, you could also be seen as a semi-confirmed townie which is something the scum would, presumably, want to take out of the equation -- that was the defensive part of it. Thirdly, I wondered what the lover thing was really about, and protecting you could help in learning more about you, turning me into a semi-informative role -- which was what eventually happened.

Also, I really enjoyed the theoretical scenario of you trying to suicide tonight with a doc protecting you -- I'd love to know what the mod would do then.

Red_Baron: snip

Red_Baron: Okay, I feel I'll have to say this before someone wrote of someone from their suspect list due to lack of night-kill or use it as proof of different things:

When I posted the theory about no night-kill this night, its due to a very good reason. I know with 100% certainty that this nights kill was not performed by the mafia.

Robbeasy: Blimey - more info freely offered! I'm hoping this is definitely in Towns best interests?

Orryyrro: Well, the obvious implication is Red_Baron is soft-claiming vigilante(or serial killer, I guess, but why would anyone claim SK?)

If it was a one-shot power he has nothing to lose by claiming he was the one that did the night kill last night, but we'd gain the important information that the mafia didn't kill anyone last night. Does that mean they targeted jefequeso, who baz says he protected, or does it mean something else?