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NotFrenchYet: Is he 3rd party then? That might explain how he could have information and flavour-contact with town and (apparently?) scum...
Don't try to hunt down third parties! It doesn't end well. If he's suspect, gets lynched and flips third party -- well, it's a good thing, because it proves there was something odd about him after all and the scumhunting efforts were correct. But don't waste your energies on third parties; in the big picture, they are irrelevant.
Posting to say I won't really be around this weekend, right now I feel like I've been hit by a truck and tomorrow is my sister's graduation ring ceremony if I'm feeling well enough to go. Her school is a several-hour drive away....
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NotFrenchYet: Is he 3rd party then? That might explain how he could have information and flavour-contact with town and (apparently?) scum...
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bazilisek: Don't try to hunt down third parties! It doesn't end well. If he's suspect, gets lynched and flips third party -- well, it's a good thing, because it proves there was something odd about him after all and the scumhunting efforts were correct. But don't waste your energies on third parties; in the big picture, they are irrelevant.
Ah..! Okay, thanks for pointing that out; I wasn't aware. >_>; Mooooving swiftly on...
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NotFrenchYet: Ah..! Okay, thanks for pointing that out; I wasn't aware. >_>; Mooooving swiftly on...
Don't tell me you're claiming cow?

;-}
so...erm...I guess we're kinda at a stand-still?
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jefequeso: so...erm...I guess we're kinda at a stand-still?
Since it's the weekend, I think this is normal. ;)

Personally I'm gearing up for another readthrough...

@Rod: ... xD You're going to milk G8 for all the laughs you can, aren't you?
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jefequeso: so...erm...I guess we're kinda at a stand-still?
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NotFrenchYet: Since it's the weekend, I think this is normal. ;)

Personally I'm gearing up for another readthrough...

@Rod: ... xD You're going to milk G8 for all the laughs you can, aren't you?
I tend to try to milk EVERYTHING if it makes me chuckle...
;-}
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Robbeasy: Snip because lazy Bard is lazy.
First off, Rodzaju's role. I'm looking at it differently then a proper investigative role because while they get their information every night, and coming out impairs them greatly, it benefits Rodzaju because there's nothing more he can do.

I'm not saying how he actually did it was what I'd call the correct course, but coming out early with all of his information benefits the town more then the mafia because it removes falseclaims, and it comes out with flavour (seriously, you people corrupt my typing :P) that allows us to process the information available when people do claim. Of course, Rodzaju's best interest is to be lynched and push his own lynch after giving us all of the information as a clean verification that he's town and he has this information. If he wins with the town, there's no problems here, the wine that results from having that information probably prevents him from reaching LyLo to begin with.

Now to the discussion over multiple mafia. I did read the flavour from the start, and got the impression that names were given to the gangs to flesh them out, you'd consider that 1 group was Violator's, and that most groups had to be crushed to go into power.

My thoughts are, that people who are out and out stating that there are multiple mafia from the beginning are acting on information that can only come from being mafia. The only reasoning I can come up with is to keep people from using a bandwagon on a mafia as proof of town and keep putting Wine on the situation. There's one other option, but as it requires proof of multiple mafia I'm going to refrain from discussing it.

My thoughts were simply a great deal of concern over a situation that adds nothing but WIFOM to what has already been a very Winey game so far.
Morning all!

Usual weekend blip to proceedings, or have we ground to a halt on this second day?

I haven't read anything that changes my mind one iota - the speculation that Rod is Third Party is interesting and a possibility, but ultimately not much use to us except as perhaps another reason why he's logically the best choice for lynch.

Vote stays on Rod.
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Robbeasy: Usual weekend blip to proceedings, or have we ground to a halt on this second day?
We very much have. I myself feel I don't really have anything else to say at this point.
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bazilisek: We very much have. I myself feel I don't really have anything else to say at this point.
Yea, my line of reason exactly - Basically one could say that we're waiting around for the lynch to happen. Although I did get tempted to comment on TwilightBard, about it being a long post which doesn't really say/add anything.. But well, decided against it as I saw it as his thought process and nothing else.
I'll chime in as also having nothing to add.
So yeah, there's one viable wagon in town, and there's two things that can happen. Either we push this wagon to its end, or an alternative one forms. And for those of us on the wagon already, well, there's not much we can do, is there?

So, those of you who are not pushing it: it's up to you now. For the record, that would be Vitek (voting for Frenchie), SirPrimalform and jefequeso (not voting), Cruward and Damnation (both voting for Vitek), Twilight (voting for nmillar), Frenchie (voting for Orry) and, of course, Rodzaju (voting for Robbeasy).

I don't really care whether you join us or don't, but do something. I haven't seen a stronger case than the one against Rod, but if you think you can come up with a better one, go ahead. If you think it indeed is the strongest case there is, well, you probably ought to do something about it, right? Passiveness won't get us anywhere at all.
Sadly I don't really have anything to add, hopefully by tomorrow I'll have a bit more info.
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SirPrimalform: Sadly I don't really have anything to add, hopefully by tomorrow I'll have a bit more info.
I'm not sure I follow. Where will that info come from?