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SirPrimalform: I pretty much completely agree with Rob here. I'm wondering if he's a mafia role cop and there was a night 0. If so he could have checked Baz and be using the info he has on Baz to claim town. He may well be bluffing about having info on 3 other players (would explain why he doesn't have their names).

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Cruward_Darkeyes: hey so iv been away for a while (a few reasons mostly to mutch sky rim) anyone care for a recap of the past few pages? im way to tired to read all of it
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SirPrimalform: I don't mean to be a dick, but you really should read it yourself. Any recap will be coloured by the person doing the recapping. Have a rest and come back when you're not tired.
fair enough but it was somewhat of a thinly vailed plot to get pepol to maby miss step in recapping..if you get what i mean by that
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Rodzaju: The way I see it, it is every Townies job to fight as hard as they can to stay alive.
Sure, some will die; that's the nature of the game, but if you just roll over & take it, you're helping the scum win.

I believe that releasing this info wholesale is harmful for town.
However, we have already seen that not everyone either agrees with or believes me.
If the thought of this information entering the public domain gives someone pause, then I have fulfilled my obligation to stay alive.
If people REALLY think this info should be out there, here is their opportunity to say so.
What I'm picking up from this, Rod, is "It's more important for me to be alive than town to win". As such, I don't really think you're helping your case.
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Rodzaju: The way I see it, it is every Townies job to fight as hard as they can to stay alive.
Sure, some will die; that's the nature of the game, but if you just roll over & take it, you're helping the scum win.

I believe that releasing this info wholesale is harmful for town.
However, we have already seen that not everyone either agrees with or believes me.
If the thought of this information entering the public domain gives someone pause, then I have fulfilled my obligation to stay alive.
If people REALLY think this info should be out there, here is their opportunity to say so.
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Damnation: What I'm picking up from this, Rod, is "It's more important for me to be alive than town to win". As such, I don't really think you're helping your case.
I see my survival & town win as complementary objectives, rather than competitive.
I would expect every townie to have the same priorities.

With a job like Drug Dealer, I expect people to look at that & instantly decide that is more likely a scum job than a town one.
My flavour text would put that into perspective & (hopefully) defuse that suicide declaration.
Unfortunately, it would do a lot more than that.
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Damnation: What I'm picking up from this, Rod, is "It's more important for me to be alive than town to win". As such, I don't really think you're helping your case.
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Rodzaju: I see my survival & town win as complementary objectives, rather than competitive.
I would expect every townie to have the same priorities.

With a job like Drug Dealer, I expect people to look at that & instantly decide that is more likely a scum job than a town one.
My flavour text would put that into perspective & (hopefully) defuse that suicide declaration.
Unfortunately, it would do a lot more than that.
Attempting at dancing around my point? Town win condition is most certainly not competitive with you dying, remember that. You said yourself if you share your information, town is screwed - then why would you do so if you're in danger of being lynched? In case you really are town, your death would not spell victory for mafia. Yes, it would mean the death of a townie, and in worst case, two townies with power roles. So I say again, what I'm getting from you right now is "It's more important for me to survive that town to win".
I'm not buying it either.

A search for 'networker' on brings up [url=http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Networker]the 'Neighborizer' role.

The bit that stands out is, 'Based on the power of Neighbors, Neighborizer is thus a role that has low power on its own but can become very strong if the Neighborizer is adept at determining its Neighbors' alignments.'

You "confirmed" bazilisek as town very early on, which kind of contradicts the role you are now claiming ...
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Damnation: Attempting at dancing around my point? Town win condition is most certainly not competitive with you dying, ....
I would say ANY townie dying is at odds with town win condition.
Each one makes a town win less likely.
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Damnation: Attempting at dancing around my point? Town win condition is most certainly not competitive with you dying, ....
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Rodzaju: I would say ANY townie dying is at odds with town win condition.
Each one makes a town win less likely.
And threatening to worsen the chances of a town victory should you die is FAR from town behaviour.

And any town death is at odds with town winning, yes, but it is at times necessary as it thins the number of suspects - otherwise day 1 would forever drag on in every game, no?
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nmillar: I'm not buying it either.

A search for 'networker' on brings up [url=http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Networker]the 'Neighborizer' role.

The bit that stands out is, 'Based on the power of Neighbors, Neighborizer is thus a role that has low power on its own but can become very strong if the Neighborizer is adept at determining its Neighbors' alignments.'

You "confirmed" bazilisek as town very early on, which kind of contradicts the role you are now claiming ...
That wiki item you pointed at IS NOT me.
Frankly I had assumed that our esteemed mod made the role up for this game.
You're twisting, you're turning, but you ain't saying anything to convince me we stand to gain more with you alive than with you lynched.

Like plenty of others, I think you winning and Town winning don't happen to be anywhere near complimentary.

I still think there's some porky pies in there - Baz as the only named player?? For what Possible reason?

Vote stands. You're scum.
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Robbeasy: I still think there's some porky pies in there - Baz as the only named player?? For what Possible reason?
The only idea that I've managed to come up with is that X originally planned to include all the player names.
He then realised how wrong this would be & took them out, but whether by accident or design, missed Baz..

Yeah, it's unlikely, but I can't come up with anything better.

If I was scum, then either:
A) I knew Baz role cos he's scum too.
In this case, why not use all my scum buddies, so that it would not stand out so much.
I don't have to give the names, but it would look a lot less suspicious if I HAD them!

B) I picked Baz cos he's town.
So how do I know his role?
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Rodzaju: B) I picked Baz cos he's town.
So how do I know his role?
Even Baz doesn't seem to know his role. He claimed doctor on Day 1, but is now claiming Jailkeeper. It seems to me that this was some elaborate scheme to be so in the spotlight that you couldn't possibly be scum.

Unfortunately for you, Jefequeso is the only person who bought it.
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Rodzaju: B) I picked Baz cos he's town.
So how do I know his role?
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nmillar: Even Baz doesn't seem to know his role. He claimed doctor on Day 1, but is now claiming Jailkeeper. It seems to me that this was some elaborate scheme to be so in the spotlight that you couldn't possibly be scum.

Unfortunately for you, Jefequeso is the only person who bought it.
Take a look at the wiki:
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Jailkeeper
Specifically the line that goes:
This role is a non-bastard version of xxxxxx Doctor.

I believe that Baz has made a leap of deduction & come up with Jailkeeper.
He is actually xxxxx Doctor.
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nmillar: Even Baz doesn't seem to know his role. He claimed doctor on Day 1, but is now claiming Jailkeeper. It seems to me that this was some elaborate scheme to be so in the spotlight that you couldn't possibly be scum.

Unfortunately for you, Jefequeso is the only person who bought it.
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Rodzaju: Take a look at the wiki:
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Jailkeeper
Specifically the line that goes:
This role is a non-bastard version of xxxxxx Doctor.

I believe that Baz has made a leap of deduction & come up with Jailkeeper.
He is actually xxxxx Doctor.
And I believe that, according to your earlier claim, is grounds for a mod kill. Guess we'll find out if you're lying shortly. :)
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Rodzaju: Take a look at the wiki:
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Jailkeeper
Specifically the line that goes:
This role is a non-bastard version of xxxxxx Doctor.

I believe that Baz has made a leap of deduction & come up with Jailkeeper.
He is actually xxxxx Doctor.
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nmillar: And I believe that, according to your earlier claim, is grounds for a mod kill. Guess we'll find out if you're lying shortly. :)
Why do you think I xxxxxx'd out the relevant word?
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nmillar: And I believe that, according to your earlier claim, is grounds for a mod kill. Guess we'll find out if you're lying shortly. :)
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Rodzaju: Why do you think I xxxxxx'd out the relevant word?
You still pointed directly to it. That's just pointing to another's word and saying "that's his role" which isn't far from saying the word yourself. I agree with nmillar, that sentence is grounds for modkill based on your previous claim. Otherwise you can just link to the wiki and type "line XX" and thusly dance around your post restriction...