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Posted February 21, 2012
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NotFrenchYet: nmillar, even though your roleclaim checks out, you could still be scum. The Orryyrro business was enough to make me think there was possibly something funny going on there. Anyway, what happened to you last night?
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nmillar: Absolutely nothing. I didn't get a file either, presumably because bazilisek role-blocked you.

You're right, I could be, but I'd have to be extremely lucky to have claimed all those files that were the same as or within 1 place of your investigations.
I was thinking you could still be scum even if you were receiving files, but then again, that's a horrific advantage for the mafia, especially when paired with a rolecop.

Leaning more towards jefe...

But whichever one of you it is, bloody well played to get this far.
Posted February 21, 2012
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NotFrenchYet: Pleasedon'tmerge.

Jefe, according to the plan you were supposed to kill nmillar tonight. You're claiming to have been forced to deviate from it. And why would nmillar's character add a rose to Baz's corpse?

Leaning Jefe. The "Whoops, I missed" story is seriously wobbly.

nmillar, even though your roleclaim checks out, you could still be scum. The Orryyrro business was enough to make me think there was possibly something funny going on there. Anyway, what happened to you last night?
No, I wasn't "forced to deviate from it." I shot at Nmillar, and my bullet hit Baz. I don't have any good idea why (i.e, whether Nmillar has some weird "ability" or X is just messing with us). And I don't have any idea why I was knocked out, either. And hell yes, it's a wobbly story. That's probably the single biggest piece of evidence in my favor, actually. Do you really think that I'm stupid enough to make up a story like this as a "clever ploy?" I would have AT LEAST figured out some more "official"-sounding than just saying "*You failed to kill Nmillar."

You ask why Nmillar would put the rose in Baz's mouth...and yet you're seeing the reason right here. Because it's cast huge amounts of suspicion on me. THIS is the last-ditch mafia effort...and Nmillar, I have no idea what has been going on behind the scenes, but really...I think it's damn impressive that you somehow managed to worm through what everyone considered to be a near-flawless plan.

But I have no other argument, because if I were in your position, NFY, I certainly would be suspicious of me.

So...your choice. I could swear on the Holy Bible that I'm not scum, if you wanted :P.
Posted February 21, 2012
Oh, and also... if my claim is a lie, how do you explain the extra corpses?
Posted February 21, 2012
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jefequeso: You ask why Nmillar would put the rose in Baz's mouth...and yet you're seeing the reason right here. Because it's cast huge amounts of suspicion on me. THIS is the last-ditch mafia effort...
The thing is, "Add rose to [subject name here]'s corpse" isn't an ability...

And why is there no mention of Baz in your closing remark, if he's the one you claim to have accidentally killed?
Posted February 21, 2012
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jefequeso: You ask why Nmillar would put the rose in Baz's mouth...and yet you're seeing the reason right here. Because it's cast huge amounts of suspicion on me. THIS is the last-ditch mafia effort...
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NotFrenchYet: The thing is, "Add rose to [subject name here]'s corpse" isn't an ability...

And why is there no mention of Baz in your closing remark, if he's the one you claim to have accidentally killed?
*shrug*

Ask X when the game is over.

You're still thinking inside the box. And this game has been anything but inside the box. Arguing over what are/aren't officially sanctioned abilities hasn't done any good so far (just look at Rod). What makes you think it will lead you right this time?
Posted February 21, 2012
Well, I'm off to bed shortly since I've got work in the morning, so I'll leave you with the two main points that confirm jefequeso as scum for me:

1. Failed to complete his posting requirement (shout 5 words a day) on Day 5, but didn't suicide on Night 5. This contradicts his claim.

2. Claims to have tried to kill me, but I'm still alive. Either he was role-blocked by bazilisek (NFY confirms this as not being the case) or he's lying.
Posted February 21, 2012
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nmillar: Well, I'm off to bed shortly since I've got work in the morning, so I'll leave you with the two main points that confirm jefequeso as scum for me:

1. Failed to complete his posting requirement (shout 5 words a day) on Day 5, but didn't suicide on Night 5. This contradicts his claim.

2. Claims to have tried to kill me, but I'm still alive. Either he was role-blocked by bazilisek (NFY confirms this as not being the case) or he's lying.
So, against the myriad of evidence that my claim is true, you're going to argue that my lack of 5 shouted words on an in-game day that barely lasted a page is evidence enough to condemn me?

To the second point, I have nothing to say.
Posted February 21, 2012
Jefe, you're claiming to have interrupted the nightkill..?
Posted February 21, 2012
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jefequeso: So, against the myriad of evidence that my claim is true, you're going to argue that my lack of 5 shouted words on an in-game day that barely lasted a page is evidence enough to condemn me?
It was part of your claim! If your claim was true, then you would not still be alive having failed to complete your post requirement! It doesn't matter how short the day was, you would still have been required to post the 5 shouted words to survive the night!
Posted February 21, 2012
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NotFrenchYet: Jefe, you're claiming to have interrupted the nightkill..?
I'm not claiming anything. I'm telling you what my flavor says.

But it would seem that I interrupted the night kill, yes.
*please don't merge!!!*

I just realized something, also... there was no mafia NK last night. And guess who Baz protected/blocked?
Post edited February 21, 2012 by jefequeso
Posted February 21, 2012
really...the suspense is killing me!!!!!
Posted February 21, 2012
The forum software really is doing us no favours tonight... :<

Yes I was doc-blocked last night, but two nights ago when there was also "no kill" apart from your vig, I was free to act, and have an investigation to show for it. That's backed up by nmillar's file.

... actually, that's a good point. If you're the other SH mafia (earpiece in Orry's lynch strongly suggests 2), why were there two kills on night 3, one classic SH and one shooting? The shooting was weird too, Bard was shot three times rather than just once, with no rose in sight.

On the other hand, Baz doc-blocked Jefe on night two, and the only kill there was the confirmed vig from the JoaT.
Posted February 21, 2012
Bard had a flower in his jacket pocket.
Posted February 21, 2012
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NotFrenchYet: The forum software really is doing us no favours tonight... :<

Yes I was doc-blocked last night, but two nights ago when there was also "no kill" apart from your vig, I was free to act, and have an investigation to show for it. That's backed up by nmillar's file.

... actually, that's a good point. If you're the other SH mafia (earpiece in Orry's lynch strongly suggests 2), why were there two kills on night 3, one classic SH and one shooting? The shooting was weird too, Bard was shot three times rather than just once, with no rose in sight.

On the other hand, Baz doc-blocked Jefe on night two, and the only kill there was the confirmed vig from the JoaT.
Sorry, I meant the night before last... Nmillar was the one who was blocked. But I suppose from your point of view, last night didn't have an NK either... *sigh*

According to my PM, I put a rose in TB's mouth. Did it not show up in the morning flavor? If not, that just makes things even worse for me.
Posted February 21, 2012
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jefequeso: According to my PM, I put a rose in TB's mouth. Did it not show up in the morning flavor? If not, that just makes things even worse for me.
How does it make things worse? I mean, worse than they are?
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