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I am a bit confused with Rodzaju sharing decisions.

At post 117 - he mentions the name "Denton Walters".
At post 119 - he asks "Angelo Cervi" and "Denton Walters" to not identify themselves.
post 136 - hints BAZ is "Denton Walters"
post 146 - again hints he knows who BAZ is.

Why ask anybody not to identify themselves if you identify them yourself?

Rodzaju, I'm sorry but I just don't get it.
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itai.sharim: I am a bit confused with Rodzaju sharing decisions.

At post 117 - he mentions the name "Denton Walters".
At post 119 - he asks "Angelo Cervi" and "Denton Walters" to not identify themselves.
post 136 - hints BAZ is "Denton Walters"
post 146 - again hints he knows who BAZ is.

Why ask anybody not to identify themselves if you identify them yourself?

Rodzaju, I'm sorry but I just don't get it.
I have intimated that I have knowledge.
I have stated that it would not be helpful to town for this to come out too soon.
Yet you still keep pressing me on this.
Why is that?

Unvote; Vote Itai.sharim
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Rodzaju: I have intimated that I have knowledge.
I have stated that it would not be helpful to town for this to come out too soon.
Yet you still keep pressing me on this.
Why is that?
I was asking for explanation as to why you decided to expose BAZ, I did not ask you to reveal more information.
Please, do not twist my intentions - it is not helpful.
Vote Rodzaju. You've given away the name of Baz's character; the only reason you'd know this if you were linked somehow. I suspect you are lyncher and lynchee. I believe Rod is Angelo Cervi, which sounds like a traditional Italian Mafia name.

As soon as you're questioned about anything, you try and direct the attention on someone else, just as you've just done to itai.sharim.

If Rodzaju isn't mafia, he's still being very unhelpful to town and should be lynched.
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nmillar: Vote Rodzaju. You've given away the name of Baz's character; the only reason you'd know this if you were linked somehow. I suspect you are lyncher and lynchee. I believe Rod is Angelo Cervi, which sounds like a traditional Italian Mafia name.

As soon as you're questioned about anything, you try and direct the attention on someone else, just as you've just done to itai.sharim.

If Rodzaju isn't mafia, he's still being very unhelpful to town and should be lynched.
I am trying to direct attention elsewhere because this line of conversation is as harmful to town as anything I can think of & I want it to stop.
I have said this several times now, but people keep bringing it up.
If I am forced into full disclosure, the town will be truly buggered!

I am NOT angelo.
You REALLY don't want his identity made public.
Rod, the thing about revealing knowledge is that you really need to be prepared to work with the consequences of what you're revealing. You've pointed out Baz as an example - if you are Town as you claim, then this would lead the Mafia to not only suspect you, but also him, as potential nightkills. What would that involve? Well, I won't press the subject yet - I'm sure you know better than I do, and thus have already stated you don't want to reveal it.

Nevertheless, your quite possibly foolish behaviour is not, in itself, a scumtell, so Unvote Rodzaju. It was my RVS vote anyway, as I recall.

By the way, Cruward - there's a link to the Wiki on the first post, I'm sure there's a beginner's guide somewhere in there which should give you some pointers.
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QuadrAlien: Rod, the thing about revealing knowledge is that you really need to be prepared to work with the consequences of what you're revealing.
This, very much this.

I have nothing more to add to this sorry situation. The cat is out of the bag, there's no way to get it back in now.
I believe Rodzaju has some kind of a list specifying confirmed power roles, or at the very least, confirmed town members. I'm leaning more to the possibility of the power roles list because Rodzaju insisted that mafia should be deprived of this info.

As already revealed, BAZ is on this list.
Also, as I understand from Rodzaju's wording - this list contains at least two more people.
Moreover, in spite all that has gone, BAZ does not believe Rodzaju is a mafia. Otherwise, he would have put his vote on Rodzaju's head. This strengthens my belief that BAZ does hold some kind of a power role. Of course, this information should not be available to the mafia at day 1. For this reason Unvote Rodzaju.

I don't believe Rodzaju would vote for someone who is present on this list of his, meaning: I'm not on this list, nor does grynn and nmillar - which makes us all mafia candidates.

Maybe Rodzaju can save us from mislynching.
Just a post to check in. Dunno if it's been 36 hours or not, but...
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Rodzaju: I do not remember a single occasion of someone accruing 4 votes & then NOT being lynched.
I had 4 votes on me at the end of day 1 in Mafia 8. I didn't get lynched that day. Granted, there was a deadline, which if it was longer may have changed that.
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itai.sharim: As already revealed, BAZ is on this list.
Could you please drop the capital letters? It feels weird, seeing myself like that.

And no, I don't think Rodzaju is scum. Foolish, yes. Mafia, no.
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Rodzaju: I do not remember a single occasion of someone accruing 4 votes & then NOT being lynched.
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Orryyrro: I had 4 votes on me at the end of day 1 in Mafia 8. I didn't get lynched that day. Granted, there was a deadline, which if it was longer may have changed that.
You survived day 1, but day 2....?
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Rodzaju: You survived day 1, but day 2....?
Day 2 I was lynched, but there's a completely different story related to why that happened. I choose to blame Joe.
I was of the opinion that Rod should be ignored for at least a day, give the mafia the chance to waste their nightkill (or one of the mafia waste one of their nightkills??), rather than waste a lynch on someone who's probably town.

A moment there I was reminded of Bazilisek's and my little dance toward the end of game 7, when I was pushing him for information and he was begging me to drop it - here we saw Baz being begged to drop it and refusing. (Though maybe fair enough seeing as if I hadn't dropped it Quadralien never would have been able to pull off that little trick right there. Ah well, it was funny at the time but maybe you had to be there.)

Are the people Rod named certainly town? Is that the kind of question we should be avoiding?
Though it seems a little late for that now.
Maybe the best thing to do is cast our gaze elsewhere for a day? If Rod can confirm some townies it would be much more helpful later on in the game.

(I choose to forgive Joe)
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JoeSapphire: Are the people Rod named certainly town? Is that the kind of question we should be avoiding?
Though it seems a little late for that now.
Maybe the best thing to do is cast our gaze elsewhere for a day? If Rod can confirm some townies it would be much more helpful later on in the game.

(I choose to forgive Joe)
See, under normal circumstances I don't think the names should be given out to begin with. IT definitely draws attention to Rodzaju and there's the attention it drives on those who say those are their names. Ignoring what he did is a bad idea but I don't have much in the way of ideas on how to deal with him. It seems like a ploy to draw attention to other people, and is dangerous even if he is town, because the mafia can easily just ignore him to give the illusion that he should be lynched (yeah, it's major Wine but that's one of the things running through my head.

@Rodzaju - Actually, if I remember correctly you survived being at L-1 in Game 4 and got lynched the next day I believe.

@Damnation - I figure I'm being a bit fair, considering my power flickered due to Snow on Saturday, I was working Sun, sick Mon, and started posting again last night :P (seriously, snow in October in North Eastern US)

@Grynn - That's what we're trying to find out, but with statements like that you come out looking particularly scummy. Not wanting to lynch the mafia if we find one is something I can't understand, because if we find one, then didn't we lynch the right person? Or do you want the mafia to have a free kill without the town exercising it's power? Because I can assure you, they aren't going to kill each other.