You make a good point there, assuming there are 3 mafia they have a dangerously strong control of the lynch. We should treat anyone being at L-4 as dangerous and think very carefully before putting anyone at L-3.

What is a miracle maker if you have no powers?

..! Hmm. Didn't expect that. You must really want to tell us about your role. I appreciate your logic with the mafia's power over the voting, but it's not like the votes have been flying around lately...

I maintain that since the power roles were picked off before they could tell us anything useful, role claiming is NOT going to win us this game. Look what happened to Orry. -_-; (Why yes, I do still feel bad about that.)

Hang on. If it's mislynch and lose, isn't that the same thing as LyLo?

No, even a nolynch loses the game at LyLo. You literally have to get one of the mafia or you're not going to survive the night.

We're at MyLo because if we ended the day without a lynch then we would survive the night (and then be at LyLo tomorrow). We're only screwed if we mislynch.

Ahh ok thanks. Well, crap. x)

I saw this was tried in game three and thought it might be useful to add to our pitifully small collection of confirmed facts. ? indicates unconfirmed. I presume the mafia have some power roles too to mix things up even more.

@Rod: thanks, that's interesting... If your theory is correct, either Xyem or Rabbit (or both?) would be scum, since they both stayed off the Orry wagon and all the other voters are still alive.

@Pazzer - me too, I'm really curious about that description...

Also you claimed, then posted again to explain the speed but didn't give us any more information other than the throw-away comment that you don't have any powers. Considering that mass claiming was YOUR suggestion, and that information is sorely lacking in this game so far, that's really not very helpful. :/

So what exactly is a Miracle Maker?
What makes it different from Vanilla?
You have said that you have no powers.
Is it that you DID have powers, but have used them?
Is it that you have extra knowledge?

I'm really bothered by the idea of a Miracle MAKER that can't MAKE Miracles....

That's.. very bád reasoning. It is far more reasonable that those that stayed off the bândwagon are still alive simply because we didn't have power roles.

Considering it is the mafia's aim to get townies killed, being on the bạndwagon seems far more appropriate. And considering both yourself and muttly were on there.. and you are were awfully quick to jump to point at others with flimsy reasoning.. you just shot straight up to the top of my suspicions list.

As you're all so interested I had a one shot doc power.

NotFrenchYet if you're so bothered by the lack of information town has why don't you claim. Of course if you did that you'd get lynched as you're mafia :P

A doc AND 1 shot doc...
This suggests perhaps a secondary killer.
Where is he?
Why has he not struck?
Or am I reading too much into this?

So why exactly were you so eager to claim when you have used up ability and you are quite reluctant to share informations?

Yeah that would be quite a stupid slip. But only if I was last mafia alive to really make it true.
"Hey, guys, it's mislynch or lose for me, we have to be careful who to lynch." :-D
Nah, I just gave it minimal thoughts before posting and just added mis- to the phrase.

... woah. That provoked people more than I thought.

@Xyem: 'If your theory is correct', I said. I was pointing out a possible conclusion of Rod's reasoning.

Rod's theory is that 2 out of 3 mafia would be on the bandwagon, because he thinks one is likely to have stayed off to avoid precisely the situation you describe. The people who didn't vote for Orry and are still alive are yourself and Rabbit, who are both newer players. Rod is targetting Rabbit pretty clearly. For my part, I voted Pazzer.

@Pazzer: You seriously thought we wouldn't be interested? o.O;

By information, I mean solid evidence, like knowing alignments or if someone was role blocked, or whatever. When I was posting I actually typed out and deleted a claim and a softclaim, but I believe that me claiming will probably not help Town at this stage because there's no way to prove it. It would just increase the size of the ? hovering over my head.

@Rod, my gut reaction is that you're reading into it too much, but I would be interested to know who Pazzer protected and when, and what the flavour for that night action was like.

Your conclusion doesn't follow Rods statements.

He said the newbie mafia would have "jumped off the wagon" whereas you said "they both stayed off".

Following Rods statements, it would only point at littlerabbit.. your change adds me for no reason (or the flimsy reasoning I was referring too).

Whom did you protect and when? Might not give us any positive evidence, but I was thinking, as there has only been one nightkill per night, there is unlikely to be a serial killer or some such as well as mafia (unless there are no mafia at all...)

I'm not sure why you decided to claim at all if you're not going to tell us what you did... I find this pretty suspicious and would normally vote for you because of this but we *can't* afford to mislynch. Who, when?

I thought you'd say that. However, this is something that can be compared with everyone else's night actions (if there were any), and/or the kill list, and/or the voting patterns of the previous day. Night actions are the hardest evidence we've got, because we have other facts to compare them with.

I'm with Primal, I don't understand at all why you decided to claim. This whole thing feels like a stalling tactic, getting us to focus on you to beg for every little piece of information, while the clock is ticking.

For the fourth time, who did you protect, and on which night?
Are there any details in the flavour that might be useful to us?