Do you have every single role in the damned game?

I found it hard to believe you before, but this is really pushing it.

OK, you've just laid to rest any doubts that I had.

Also, if this latest claim is true, this must be the most unbalanced setup ever. I don't want to rush it, but I'm itching to drop a hammer here.

Ok that's just weird. As I would have hammered you if i'd been about day 1 I have no problem hammering you today.
Vote Orryyrro

<.< That's...not saving yourself, or trying. Honestly, I see no reason at this point NOT to drop the hammer on this. Mainly because I don't believe it, and now I'm not sure I believe either claim. I think I need to reread some posts to check on things. But this is really dangerous territory right now.

So that's that. If he's telling the truth, we are going to lose three townies in one fell swoop. Together with the deadline on day one, how the hell are we supposed to win this?

...which is why I don't think he is telling the truth. It just makes no sense.

His death meaning two nights happen in a row, plus being a cop that can't reveal himself without losing his night action? Honestly I think that was the straw that made me stop believing him. Otherwise, I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and consider that he might have been telling the truth.

Unfortunately however, this puts you under the microscope pretty hard :P

I'm hoping it would take more than this vintage WIFOM to lynch me. But let's not get ahead of ourselves.

I woud say if O is in fact scum this pretty much exonirates Baz. If I were part of the mob and I thought one of my guys was going to be lynched (and O was very close day 1) I would look for the strongest townie (in the mind of the mob abyway) and finger him as clean. End game being my guy was lynched and now they think he was trying to protect another mob memeber. Theres zero downside. Its almost too obvious...

Which brings me around to why TB so quickly brought it up. Never voted for O and didnt say anything about it since post 376 (where he defended O, but I cant hold this against him per say, I though he was clean for a while myself) two days ago until Paz cast the last vote. Then came on about how we should drop the hammer three minutes after it was done. AND then immediately pointed the finger at the next patsy!

Anyway, all of this only holds water if O is scum. If he is not, then none of it flys. So I guess we will see.

Bloody hell!

If Orry turns out to be telling the truth... WTF JOE? Anyway, we're not going to get night soon because I happen to know that our mod is off dancing. Bah!

Yes, but the problem is, because people are so willing to think that Orryyrro would point the finger at a townie, makes me suspicious. I get that it's such a big helping of Wine, but let me explain one thing about it. Baz called it 'Vintage', it's an old trick because it works, because no Scum is willing to throw out the name of one of his fellows right? They win as a group, same with Town. They have two very easy outs for this. One is, You build up the bandwagon on a scumbuddy, hell, do it early too, throw them under a bus and you look extremely town.

The other, is this, claim cop, and name a scumbuddy. This works really well if you fool everyone, including the real investigative role so they don't track/watch/investigate the person.

I'm not saying we should lynch him, but that doesn't mean I can't be suspicious. And hopefully, if this is a mafia trick, that the investigative role might be convinced to check out Baz to make sure before we make a mistake.

I never voted for O because when I was writing my post, Paz dropped in and did it, sorry, that might say I was posting 3 minutes after and not checking for new posts, but I started posting before. I chose to wait because I wanted to check Orryyrro's posts for any attempted breadcrumbing, even though it was probably something I should have done after he claimed. Even though there was nothing there.

That's a lot of wine based on timing though, which is something I don't really have control of.

Aaaah! Giant spiders everywhere!

Carry on, Bard.

What?

Bet Orryyrro turns out to be a jester now.