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Posted November 23, 2011
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Snickersnack: Isn't that one of the primary objectives of copy protection?
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grviper: Modern CP works the other way.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. ;)
Posted November 23, 2011
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TheEnigmaticT: We don't have source code access for *any* titles.
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Fever_Discordia: Well I know THAT'S not true - there's Descent 1 and 2 for a start - they are open source!
*Capt Pedantic strikes again*
PEDANTRY!
In most cases they don't have access because the source has long since been lost. In other cases though, fixing games to that extent would change the experience. It's one thing to fix compatibility and another to fix bugs that were never fixed.
Posted November 23, 2011
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lowyhong: That's fine and I concede to the previous thread being of poor judgment. Two things to mention were that I brought up the mention of certain sites (though I didn't provide links to them) and the discussion of where to acquire them - all of which I thought were fine given that GOG uses them in some games, but arguably not, since there are nuances in the two cases that may lead to adverse results.
You don't need to justify anything, you didn't do anything wrong, and even if you did we'd still love you ;)

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Darling_Jimmy: Meanwhile, they mysteriously do care about someone cracking abandonware himself because...
Gog's partners stand to loose nothing fom the affiliations, they obviously do have a stake on what goes on here and you can bet your ass that they would take exception if a pro piracy stance, or even one that could be perceived as such, were to be let loose on the boards.

btw, playing the affilitiations gotcha is not as effective as an argument as you seem to think seing how they're out in the open for anyone who isn't blind and everything.
Posted November 23, 2011
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Namur: You don't need to justify anything, you didn't do anything wrong, and even if you did we'd still love you ;)
Aww *brofist* :P
Posted November 23, 2011
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lowyhong: Aww *brofist* :P
*brofist* :)
Posted November 23, 2011
This thread started with crack and ended with fisting. What a party!
Posted November 23, 2011
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Darling_Jimmy: I'm not interested in the ethical component of the discussion. I just can't believe that your partners don't care about GOG funding websites that freely distribute pre-cracked infringing copies of their games but they do care about someone asking how to crack a legally purchased game for personal use.
Whoooooaaaa there logic train, you done fell off the rails. People who go to abandonware sites are not the same as people who go to a torrent tracker to get The Witcher 2. You know that, you're just selectively ignoring it to try and make a snarky point.

People who go to abandonware sites are people who want to replay old games they're nostalgic for but they know they can't go get them at Best Buy, and they know amazon copies are exorbitantly priced due to the collectors market and are not guaranteed to work. It's pretty much the GOG audience in a nutshell, and it came about because no one was legitimately servicing their needs. The GOG ads, quite logically, are there to say "we're here now, we're doing this thing, come and get it." And that makes complete sense.

And there will always be games that can no longer be sold anywhere, due to licensing issues or whatever else. Blade Runner is probably a perfect example. If not for abandonware sites these games would be largely unavailable, and since no one really owns the games anymore to sell them, no one is hurt by the downloading of them.

TL:DR - Your black and white philosophy does not equate to logical thinking.
Posted November 23, 2011
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crazy_dave: They are much more likely to care about their precious new games and DRM however.
By that logic, they aren't likely to care about removing the physical disc requirement of a 2000 year game, that a person legally owns and which requirement he removes in fear of the disc being damaged because it is not being sold anymore, don't you think?

I'd say removing a disc requirement from an old game is better than freaking allowing users to download copies of old games, but that's just me.
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keeveek: Which is also good news for publishers. They may be sure that when GOG releases their game it will be deleted from that sites. Win-win.
Wow, I should really make a site to host hundreds of things that I do not have permission to, nor I own, and remove stuff only when I can make money from GOG's affiliate links. Win-win! NOT!
Post edited November 23, 2011 by kavazovangel
Posted November 23, 2011
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StingingVelvet: And there will always be games that can no longer be sold anywhere, due to licensing issues or whatever else. Blade Runner is probably a perfect example. If not for abandonware sites these games would be largely unavailable, and since no one really owns the games anymore to sell them, no one is hurt by the downloading of them.
Sorry for off-topic, but this part is interesting for me. I tought EA got the right here and hoped we will get it someday here, because it's one of the classic adventures I missed and want to to play. But when the licensing is the same way messed up like the system shock games that's really sad. So, really no chance to see it here?
Posted November 23, 2011
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StingingVelvet: People who go to abandonware sites are not the same as people who go to a torrent tracker to get The Witcher 2.
Yes, they are. They are looking for a way to get the game. Just because one game is old or is not on sale anymore, it doesn't make it okay to pirate it. New game = old game, it is a piece of software owned by somebody.

@at most that would try... don't try to bend my sentences now, I never supported piracy, only modifying the exes, which is EXACTLY what mods do too.

I wonder how many of you guys played Fallout or Skyrim with the Large Address Awareness patch. Patch = crack = hack = fuck. It still modifies the exe. :D
Posted November 23, 2011
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kavazovangel: Yes, they are. They are looking for a way to get the game. Just because one game is old or is not on sale anymore, it doesn't make it okay to pirate it. New game = old game, it is a piece of software owned by somebody.
No, not at all, you're being extremely silly. The Witcher 2 is sold on legitimate digital stores, currently owned by its publishers and developers. A game like Blade Runner is owned by no one, sold nowhere legitimately, and truly abandoned.

You can pretend abandonware does not exist, but since I know it does it comes off pretty hollow.
Posted November 23, 2011
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StingingVelvet: People who go to abandonware sites are not the same as people who go to a torrent tracker to get The Witcher 2.
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kavazovangel: Yes, they are. They are looking for a way to get the game. Just because one game is old or is not on sale anymore, it doesn't make it okay to pirate it. New game = old game, it is a piece of software owned by somebody.
No, no they're not. Think for a second, try to put yourself in the position of an individual who wants The Witcher 2 and think what options you have. Now step into the shoes of a person just itching to play that old title that reminds him of a time when he still had hair, and its developer went under decades ago. What options does HE have?

edit: and ninjaed yet again!
Post edited November 23, 2011 by Pemptus
Posted November 23, 2011
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kavazovangel: ...
I'm not sure what you are trying to say. DRM, cracks, abandon ware, pirates, etc,etc,etc,etc,etc have been debated into the ground here in the forums . . . hundreds of times, maybe thousands. I've discussed cracks myself on numerous occasions with no recourse from GOG. Everybody has their opinion and few are changed in these redundant threads. Posting links to cracks is a DUH thing and GOG responded as I would expect.

It seems . . . with no disrespect intended . . . that you made a very public post to [ attack | criticize | ridicule | other ] a GOG employee for doing his job according to GOG policies. You took personal offense and felt the need to do so I suppose.

Forgive me for missing it but what is your point with this thread other than slamming the employee for doing something you didn't like.
Posted November 23, 2011
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grviper: This thread started with crack and ended with fisting. What a party!
That's nothing. Wait till you see what we have in that other room.
Posted November 23, 2011
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StingingVelvet: You can pretend abandonware does not exist, but since I know it does it comes off pretty hollow.
Maybe the company that owns it just doesn't want to sell it anymore?

Like, XP is not being sold anymore... That doesn't make it okay for people to download it from 'abandon'ware sites.
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