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Posted August 31, 2011
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Aningan: They should have never made Anders initiate the conversation and this would have never become an issue. That's where they failed, not in having gay relationships.
I think the main issue with Anders is that all other companions could be handled fairly realistically. Anders was the only one who threw a wobbler and earned you a big hit in rivalry if you declined his offer. It was not only unrealistic it was simply bad writing.
Posted August 31, 2011
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Aningan: Besides the whole situation is preposterous. If you're straight and have a gay friend he would not hit on you knowing your orientation. They should have never made Anders initiate the conversation and this would have never become an issue. That's where they failed, not in having gay relationships.
Thats assuming anders knew, if you'd shagged isabella for example and everyone knew about it (because lets face it, its isabella, everyone would know) then it might deter him BUT the conversation was triggered by having a high enough rep with him and that required a lot of presents or helping him in particularly risky ventures, both of which could be interpreted as more than friendship.

Also the fact he initiated the conversation is not only consistent with the straight relationships in the game but its also a nice change from the player having to do every little thing himself
Post edited August 31, 2011 by Aliasalpha
Posted August 31, 2011
"Now i don't hate gays or anything but…"

Halt criminal scum!
If you need to add that statement before ‘but’ you probably need to seriously consider the words your saying after ‘but’.

I'm not even going to read the rest of it after 'but' because if there wasn't any sort of hate or ill feelings towards gay people and their relationships you wouldn't need to continue the sentence or have the word 'but' there at all.

Now if this is mealy a criticism about how relationships are shown in games you should take out the fist statement and 'but' because it doesn't need to be there at all. Saying you don't like how something is portrayed is not the same thing as saying you don't like the thing as it actually exists.
Posted August 31, 2011
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Ash360: [...] I'm not even going to read the rest of it after 'but' because if there wasn't any sort of hate or ill feelings towards gay people and their relationships you wouldn't need to continue the sentence or have the word 'but' there at all. [...]
I say something similar and surprisingly you're the only other person I know that has the same view of the word 'but' being used in a sentence

Usually, anything before the word 'but' is a lie
Posted August 31, 2011
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Adzeth: Try, just for giggle's sake, to tell a woman who's hitting on you that you're not interested. I'm pretty sure that'll give you "negative reputation". In real life, that is.
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Aningan: How about you tell her "I'm sorry, I'm gay" if you really want a correct analogy with RL. I really don't think that many would hold against you the fact you have a different sexual orientation.

Or even better, tell a gay guy that's hitting on you that you like women (if you want to transfer the situation to RL). I doubt it will cause a downrep. Besides the whole situation is preposterous. If you're straight and have a gay friend he would not hit on you knowing your orientation. They should have never made Anders initiate the conversation and this would have never become an issue. That's where they failed, not in having gay relationships.
You are assuming that people are reasonable. I don't know the character, but I do know that some people go insane when it's about love/crushes. Even if you have the perfect, bestest reason in the whole world to turn down a courter, some will flip out. If someone goes out on their way to try and woo you, and you turn them down, it's not going to be perfectly neutral even if your orientations do not match.
Even if a friend knows about the clash of orientations, they might try their luck to convert the hapless fool they have a crush on.
Having that Anders guy initiate the conversation just means that the guy is, let's say, assertive. I haven't played the game, so I'm basing on what I've read here.
Posted August 31, 2011
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ChickenHero: Personally as long as these sort of characters don't try and chat my character up and keep it to themselves in private i am ok with it,
lol, awesome,made my day
Posted August 31, 2011
Hopefully I am not the only one who thought ChickenHero was just trolling.
Post edited August 31, 2011 by timppu
Posted August 31, 2011
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lukaszthegreat: Greeks didn't even care about sex with goats.
lol, what should I answer now.

Well, it is true that up until christianity came and introduced the concept of an all-powerful and vengeful god and the concept of sin, with strict theocratic governments set up and making people behave accordingly, sex was pretty much one of the most liberal (if not the most liberal) aspect of the ancient world and even its most (nowadays) queer aspects were practiced freely by almost every ancient civilization, be it Greeks, Romans, Persians and what-not.

But I didn't know about goats lol.
Posted August 31, 2011
Now that my original outrage has passed, I'm starting to feel like I got trolled, hard. :D
Posted August 31, 2011
i don't care about gay characters in game. of course, i couldn't be part of gay romance in a game, but it feels natural to see some gay in a story that involes many characters. just it. I generally don't like sexuality to much expressed in a game. i like more subtle romances, like in baldurs gate 2.
Posted August 31, 2011
I think that there really isn't any neutral opinions here. If it was neutral, why would anyone post an opinion about that. Person is always who he/she is. This has been mostly gay-friendly thread and to not welcome gays with open arms and with a hug feels like it's a crime.
Well, it's not.
Should they have the same rights as everyone else? Yes. Should women? Yes. Race? Yes also.
More we talk about those things and are against those, more special it gets and then we in a sense give them special treatment. Which can be interpret as power.
Posted August 31, 2011
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ChickenHero: for example in dragon age 2 it was very annoying as a male character to get hit on by Anders with no neutral option to say 'i'm not gay' (you get negative reputation with him for saying that sort of thing).
So you get negative reputation with him, big deal. That's the kind of character he is, all part of the game.
As well as the fact that all the male characters were bisexual which isn't very realistic.
Well you can say that's part of the game world. Maybe they're more open-minded in Ferelden? Like Ancient Greece for example? Since when does a fantasy world have to have a society that's a carbon copy of the one you're used to?
Personally as long as these sort of characters don't try and chat my character up and keep it to themselves in private i am ok with it, unless in skyrim if i saw a gay couple walking around then i would pull out my axe and kill them to cleanse the world :P
Don't ask don't tell, eh? How very unhateful of you.

And how come you're not complaining about all the lesbianism and bisexual women in games?
Posted August 31, 2011
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ChickenHero: if i saw a gay couple walking around then i would pull out my axe and kill them to cleanse the world :P
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WBGhiro: Oh good to know you don't hate gay people or anything :P
Killing them because their gay isn't because i hate them, but because it ruins my immersion and i don't want anything to disturb that.
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SLP2000: I think there should be an option at the beginning of the game (i.e. character creation) so the players could choose if their character is heterosexual or not. And then the game could depend on their choice.

Games should stay games. We have enough politics everywhere else.
Best comment in the thread.

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Balazs: Now, being gay is completely accepted by society, but the fantasy games are set in a world, where the human parts of the world are based on the medieval times, and it wasn't accepted then. So yeah, it's gone too far.

EDIT: In games with a 21th century or later setting, I've got no problem with it, though.
Well it's still not fully accepted in this society (rightly so) but in fantasy games it was never accepted so i don't know why they would include it.

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timppu: Blah Blah Blah.
Your whole comment is invalid since i don't live in sweden.


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Antimateria: Should they have the same rights as everyone else? Yes. Should women? Yes. Race? Yes also.
This is debatable, i wouldn't want to see gay people kissing each other whilst walking around skyrim it would ruin
my emersion and i would have to kill them to put it back to normal, Also the women thing is debatable since when did
you see women fighting as guards in medieval times? Most of the guards in oblivion are men.


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kalirion: And how come you're not complaining about all the lesbianism and bisexual women in games?
I said 'gay' which meant both male and female relationships.
Posted August 31, 2011
I want a version of Dragon Age with only lesbian characters. Yes.
Posted August 31, 2011
Now that gays are apparently too commonplace, do you think we'll be seeing transgenders and hermaphrodites next?
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