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Posted September 29, 2012
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hedwards: Indeed, I can't recall any FD based game using more than about a dozen disks. So, we're talking about games that are at most 30mb or so, and even one of those tiny promotional CDs holds 4x as much data.

Very few games that were ever released on CDROM were exactly the same as the FD version, because people expected to get more for their purchase. CDROM games cost more early on and were usually promoted as being premium content.
I also somehow forgot about red book audio. For some games of that transitional period, the music was 90% of the disc's content.
Posted September 29, 2012
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Barefoot_Monkey: System Shock - Shodan apparently had a voice in the CD version, but that's not the version I own.
Yeah, SS is what I came here to mention, and shame on you for missing the CD version. The voiced logs are great.
Posted September 29, 2012
Castles II: Siege and Conquest had differences between CD and floppy - they added voice overs and a lot of extras & films for the CD version, but removed some of the political plots found in the floppy. I've never played the floppy version. The CD version is the one on GOG.

X-Wing and Tie Fighter have some differences in their floppy and CD versions too.
Post edited September 29, 2012 by crazy_dave
Posted September 29, 2012
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Fictionvision: Star Trek 25th Anniversary and Judgmental Rights both have the original casts doing voices in-game on the CD editions that are missing from the floppy editions. There are probably other differences, but I haven't played either to know them.
25th Anniversary CD version has the last episode reworked. IIRC, some reviewer commented the change as having the worst episode becoming the best in the game.

I have floppy and CD versions of Judgment Rites, but only CD version of the 25th Anniversary, so can't say whether to agree or disagree with that opinion. Judgment Rites didn't have any major changes between the floppy and CD versions.
Posted October 01, 2012
Thanks for all the responses, guys. I really wish there was a wiki or a list for this stuff somewhere.
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SCPM: Flashback: Quest For Identity had very different cutscenes between the two versions. In my opinion, the CD version was worse. I forget what the other differences were.
Edit: And there was a CD version of X-Com: UFO Defense that had enhanced music, I believe.

A more pressing question is, what version should GOG offer? Both?
That's a very good question. And my answer, being the greedy, greedy person I am, would have to be both.

Of course, whether that's feasible(from GOG's point of view) is a different story.
Posted October 01, 2012
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Neobr10: If i recall correctly Dungeon Keeper has different floppy and CD versions.
Actually, Dungeon Keeper has always been a CD-only game.
Posted October 01, 2012
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staticblast: Thanks for all the responses, guys. I really wish there was a wiki or a list for this stuff somewhere.

That's a very good question. And my answer, being the greedy, greedy person I am, would have to be both.

Of course, whether that's feasible(from GOG's point of view) is a different story.
There is a GOG-wiki :) - some forumers made it (not me)

GOG offers the version that it gets from the publisher/rights holder or the one it can find/get working. Sometimes GOG does offer multiple versions - Broken Sword comes with the Director's cut (which is a modern remastered version) and the original game as a bonus. MoO2 comes with both the DOSBox version (the main one people play) and a Windows version (not patched as high I think - not for bugs but for balance and play-style, but the latter patches may be community ones I can't remember). However, it is not always able to do that. In general, GOG offers either the most recent version of the game (remastered if exists or CD version) or the DOSBox version (if the game is that old) as DOSBox is usually easier to get working than early Windows games.
Post edited October 01, 2012 by crazy_dave
Posted October 01, 2012
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PetrusOctavianus: I don't understand what was the point about Wizardry Gold.
The voice acting was painfully bad; easily the worst I've ever heard in a professional game. Even most amateur efforts for various mods are better.
The diplomacy was broken.
The new "improved" character portraits looked like some childish anime crap.
Hey, you had to have an enhanced CD-ROM version if you still wanted to be taken serious by your clientele. But I agree with you, more storage space did not always go hand in hand with more quality content.

Enhance......enhance......enhance.......
Posted October 01, 2012
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crazy_dave: GOG offers the version that it gets from the publisher/rights holder or the one it can find/get working. Sometimes GOG does offer multiple versions - Broken Sword comes with the Director's cut (which is a modern remastered version) and the original game as a bonus. MoO2 comes with both the DOSBox version (the main one people play) and a Windows version (not patched as high I think - not for bugs but for balance and play-style, but the latter patches may be community ones I can't remember). However, it is not always able to do that. In general, GOG offers either the most recent version of the game (remastered if exists or CD version) or the DOSBox version (if the game is that old) as DOSBox is usually easier to get working than early Windows games.
Goblins series has both versions on GOG I believe. Which is nice.
Posted October 01, 2012
Lemmings had a special CD version release later that had full RedBook audio. A godsend for PC gamers that don't want to emulate the Amiga version or put up with the absolutely dreadful MIDI music. The CD had the full theme for the SOTB-inspired "A Beast of a Level" stage, which made it worth putting into a hi-fi and playing full blast...

Didn't the latter two Ishar games have special CD versions with prerendered intros and Redbook as well? I think I recall both versions being in the GOG releases, but I'm too lazy to check...
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SCPM: Flashback: Quest For Identity had very different cutscenes between the two versions. In my opinion, the CD version was worse. I forget what the other differences were.
Agreed. Not only was the MIDI music actually better, the prerendered cutscenes look horrible.

As I recall though, you can use REminiscence with the files from the CD version to play the floppy version, or even download the Amiga music MOD files and have the all-round best experience (nothing beats the awesome Amiga version).
Post edited October 01, 2012 by jamyskis
Posted October 01, 2012
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staticblast: Thanks for all the responses, guys. I really wish there was a wiki or a list for this stuff somewhere.

That's a very good question. And my answer, being the greedy, greedy person I am, would have to be both.

Of course, whether that's feasible(from GOG's point of view) is a different story.
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crazy_dave: There is a GOG-wiki :) - some forumers made it (not me)

GOG offers the version that it gets from the publisher/rights holder or the one it can find/get working. Sometimes GOG does offer multiple versions - Broken Sword comes with the Director's cut (which is a modern remastered version) and the original game as a bonus. MoO2 comes with both the DOSBox version (the main one people play) and a Windows version (not patched as high I think - not for bugs but for balance and play-style, but the latter patches may be community ones I can't remember). However, it is not always able to do that. In general, GOG offers either the most recent version of the game (remastered if exists or CD version) or the DOSBox version (if the game is that old) as DOSBox is usually easier to get working than early Windows games.
heres the link: http://www.gogwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
Posted October 01, 2012
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Barefoot_Monkey: System Shock - Shodan apparently had a voice in the CD version, but that's not the version I own.
More than that - in the floppy version Shodan is male; female in the CD version. (And in 2, also.)
Posted October 01, 2012
Anybody know the last big game that saw a floppy release? Ultima 8 maybe?
Posted October 01, 2012
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crazy_dave: There is a GOG-wiki :) - some forumers made it (not me)

GOG offers the version that it gets from the publisher/rights holder or the one it can find/get working. Sometimes GOG does offer multiple versions - Broken Sword comes with the Director's cut (which is a modern remastered version) and the original game as a bonus. MoO2 comes with both the DOSBox version (the main one people play) and a Windows version (not patched as high I think - not for bugs but for balance and play-style, but the latter patches may be community ones I can't remember). However, it is not always able to do that. In general, GOG offers either the most recent version of the game (remastered if exists or CD version) or the DOSBox version (if the game is that old) as DOSBox is usually easier to get working than early Windows games.
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reaver894: heres the link: http://www.gogwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
That's nice, but it only lists games GOG already has. And it only lists the versions GOG has access to, as far as I can see. I was rather thinking a more general resource, since I'm a bit of a collector and occasionally like hunting down original copies of the games in question.

As for what GOG is/isn't allowed to have, I know that they're restricted by the publishers/copyright holders, but a guy can dream, can't he?
Posted October 01, 2012
The CDROM version of Gabriel Knight featured voice acting with Tim Curry as Gabriel. And CD Music instead of midi too.
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