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Posted August 30, 2012
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Gilou: To those who have had purchased games at GG, have the other drm bothered you in some ways? Have you had any problems with the files downloaded from GG? Or any other issues?
Tagés gave me the biggest ragefit I've had all year. Fortunately GG support were nice, sorted it out (by offering me another game of the same value instead), and all was cool.
Posted August 30, 2012
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Leroux: I just made the self-test with a small, officially DRM-free game from Gamersgate and can confirm that. As soon as the installation is over or aborted, the setup.exe is encrypted into an unknown file format with the name "launch". To restart the setup.exe, you have to run the "Download [Game Title].exe" from Gamersgate again. When I tried that after disconnecting my computer from the internet, the program automatically connected to the internet again and asked me to log into my Gamersgate account. So yes, it's definitely DRM, even for those games that are officially DRM-free, and the fact that there's a workaround doesn't change it.
But, correct me if I'm wrong, you have the game on your computer, right? And you can back it up on a DVD, and ten years later put it onto your new computer and play it? Because if so, I wouldn't think of that as DRM. If you can move the games around and do what you want with them, is it a big deal if you can't do the same with the installer?

I mean, I admit that I might totally be missing something, but I've never understood the GG/DRM issue, and I guess now's as good a time as any to get clarification.
Posted August 30, 2012
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Gilou: Hello there,

I am considering registering at gamersgate since some games are cheaper and occasional sales are interesting.

Excluding the internet connection required at the installation and steam, I am concerned about the other drm (tages, securom...) and the overall quality of the installer.

To those who have had purchased games at GG, have the other drm bothered you in some ways? Have you had any problems with the files downloaded from GG? Or any other issues?

Thanks
I like GamersGate a lot and have built up a pretty large library with them but would be lying to say that you never have to roll with some punches.

A couple of my Gate games work but the publishers never removed DRM when formatted to digital download so I had search for noCD Fixes and cracks to get them running.

Sometimes Gate will also let Troll uploads slip.

As well, some titles on Gate have limited activations so you have to be prepared to beg the publisher for a permanent unlock key once all of your installs have been used up.

But the goods still out weigh the bads.

The goods being that Gate hosts some pretty rare titles and they're constantly having massive sales.

The Blue Coin incentive has won me quite a few games as well.

Oh yeah, and although a bit slow to reply, their tech support is the only tech support I've used, with an online seller, that didn't feel like Cleverbot trying to push me off onto the publisher whenever I've had a problem with a game.
Posted August 30, 2012
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Gilou: To those who have had purchased games at GG, have the other drm bothered you in some ways? Have you had any problems with the files downloaded from GG? Or any other issues?
I've had problems with Tages in the past, but I can't remember an occasion when I couldn't work it out somehow. StarForce, on the other hand, hates me and I am only too happy to return the favour. I can't remember a single StarForce game that would have worked on my PC, not that I have tried too many.

Note that these issues are related to the DRM software themselves rather than GamersGate. I haven't had any problems with DRM on GamersGate because I never buy games that have StarForce.
Posted August 30, 2012
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Gilou: Thank you very much to all of you.

It seems that experience differs depending on the age and drm of the game and of course luck. However, I should be safe with games that can be activated on Steam (handy and easy updates)
I've only gotten DRM-free games from GG and haven't had a single problem so far.
Posted August 30, 2012
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orcishgamer: GOG's big website issue is usability, they've got all the bells and whistles but are applying them without an eye towards usability. At the very least GOG's website shows some aesthetic consistency (most of the time). GG's website doesn't have this, doesn't degrade nicely with older browsers, uses really shitty looking widgets and buttons, etc. GOG's website certainly doesn't deserve any design awards but at least it's not in the class of "oh god my eyes!"


It didn't the last time I used it, but perhaps they've changed this. If they have then it is no longer DRM.
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Bloodygoodgames: LOL. See I don't see that at all when I look at GG. I love that it's brightly colored. Way more attractive when it comes to buying games.

I think that kind of design actually helps with sales too, as it makes you way more excited about buying games than the butt-ugly grey of GOG, which is incredibly depressing. Can't be good for sales IMO.
You know there is less-depressing version of GOG gray, right?
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carnival73: Oh yeah, and although a bit slow to reply, their tech support is the only tech support I've used, with an online seller, that didn't feel like Cleverbot trying to push me off onto the publisher whenever I've had a problem with a game.
Sega of America wins the award for best tech support I've spoken to. The guy I was talking to really tried hard to help.
Post edited August 30, 2012 by IronStar
Posted August 30, 2012
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carnival73: As well, some titles on Gate have limited activations so you have to be prepared to beg the publisher for a permanent unlock key once all of your installs have been used up.
Actually there's no need to beg the publisher - just write a ticket to GamersGate support, and they'll supply you with a new key. They even say so in their FAQ:

"Some games got some kind of protection. This is done according to the agreement with the developers and publishers. However, the activation limit that may be on this protection is easily reset by an email to support@gamersgate.com. Any game bought on GamersGate is yours to download and install as many times as you like."

"Any game bought on GamersGate is yours to download and install as many times you like. Some games are protected with an activation limit, but that limit is easily reset with an email to GamersGate support."

So, while some publishers unfortunately do provide only limited activations for their games, GamersGate at least makes an effort to not let you suffer any negative consequences from it. :)
Post edited August 30, 2012 by Psyringe
Posted August 30, 2012
Do all RPG Maker games on GG really have SecuROM or are they just all listed like that? With all the DRM-free games they DO have, it seems a bit ridiculous to wrap RPG Maker games.
Posted August 30, 2012
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IronStar: You know there is less-depressing version of GOG gray, right?
Yep. An equally depressing lighter grey :)
Post edited August 30, 2012 by Bloodygoodgames
Posted August 30, 2012
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BadDecissions: But, correct me if I'm wrong, you have the game on your computer, right? And you can back it up on a DVD, and ten years later put it onto your new computer and play it? Because if so, I wouldn't think of that as DRM. If you can move the games around and do what you want with them, is it a big deal if you can't do the same with the installer?

I mean, I admit that I might totally be missing something, but I've never understood the GG/DRM issue, and I guess now's as good a time as any to get clarification.
Theoretically yes, but you never know what the installer actually does. If it just unpacks the game files, you should be fine, but if it writes stuff into your registry or something, you've got no guarantee that just moving the files around will make the game work on a new setup / computer with a different, unchanged registry. It's safer to let the installer adapt the game to your system again.
Posted August 31, 2012
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IronStar: Sega of America wins the award for best tech support I've spoken to. The guy I was talking to really tried hard to help.
I've never had to contact Sega - all of their stuff works. XD
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Psyringe: "Some games got some kind of protection. "
Ah, cool...never knew that

And those Swedes are going to have to practice their English with other American shows aside from just 'Dukes of Hazard.'
Post edited August 31, 2012 by carnival73
Posted August 31, 2012
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IronStar: Sega of America wins the award for best tech support I've spoken to. The guy I was talking to really tried hard to help.
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carnival73: I've never had to contact Sega - all of their stuff works. XD
I bugged them about old Shogun Total War. The weren't able to help me as EA published it, but the guy tried really hard.
Posted August 31, 2012
Stopped using them. Only have 4 games there that I've yet to finish, but not in a hurry.

(Recently stopped using Origin and removed it from my system since I finished all EA games I had.)
Posted August 31, 2012
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IronStar: You know there is less-depressing version of GOG gray, right?
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Bloodygoodgames: Yep. An equally depressing lighter grey :)
Grey is beautiful! Just ask my African Grey parrots! They'll tell you! :D
Posted August 31, 2012
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Bloodygoodgames: Yep. An equally depressing lighter grey :)
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dirtyharry50: Grey is beautiful! Just ask my African Grey parrots! They'll tell you! :D
Are you enjoying Ultima IX? I know I am.

:)
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