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Posted December 03, 2014
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darthspudius: Consoles are relevant when they are diverse. But that idea has died with Wii, Xbox 360 and PS4. This current batch are just glorified Bluray players with absolutely no personality or characteristics at all.
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snowkatt: ...yeaaah the megadrive snes saturn ps1 and n64 were wholly different machines with complete different sets fo strengths and weaknesses
Oh hell my friends and I still argue which was best. Snes or Megadrive! lol

Edit: We've argued about PS1 and N64 aswell but everyone knows the N64 was shite! :P
Post edited December 03, 2014 by darthspudius
Posted December 03, 2014
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Crewdroog: Yes, cause some of us can't afford fancy computers that can play AAAs, so we use our consoles. Plus, I'd rather play platformers on a console.

If I didn't have a console I'd never played Skyrim, AC, ME, etc, etc, etc. And that would make me sad.
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snowkatt: and soem games are better with a controller anyway

i hate platformers but if i must play them its going to be with a controller

racing games and action games and beat em ups are also controller material for me

sims on the other hand is ass with a controller
I agree.

I would prefer to play Skyrim on the 'puter cause it would look so much better. But I think AC would not play well at all on the PC w/o a controller. And if I"m gonna use a controller anyways, I'd just assume play it on my PS3. Now I've played Oblivion on the PS3 and PC, and by far, I prefer the PC k/m, no question. Fallout:NV I've played on both, but prefer to play it waaaay more on the PS3 than PC cause of bugs. Borderlands? I like it equally on both systems.

if a game comes out for the PS3 I'd rather play it that way than it's port cause it was made to be played on a stupid console. Reverse is true.
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Urnoev: I never really understood why people would buy consoles...
They are initially cheaper, yes, but the games cost so much compared to discounted titles for a computer. And for 400 bucks you can buy a decent gaming computer too, though of course you won't be able to play the newest AAA-titles (but who wants to do that anyway these days, with gigantic first-day-patches, ridiculous bugs, lots and lots of Downloadable Content and such).
A PC also provides way more possibilities... although that's less and less important since people tend to use their phones for everything nowadays.

The only real argument for me is the ease of plug-and-play, you don't have to worry about anything and just play.

Everything else is... unimportant. Hell, you can even use a controller to play games on your PC, so what?

That being said, a computer is the only choice for me because of quite complex titles, which cannot be played with a controller, most of all strategy games.
I bought a used PS3 for $150 and only buy used games and never pay more than $15 for a game. Ever.
Post edited December 03, 2014 by Crewdroog
Posted December 03, 2014
I have a 360 and a PS3, they allow me to play games that my PC cant handle (I still have a CRT screen ffs!).

Dunno about 400 bucks, maybe you mean PS4 or XB1 prices, Last PS3 I bought here cost €250 with The Last of Us and GTA V included, which is a pretty decent price.

Time-wise It was at the GTAV release day, GTAV was bundled in the box and the box was branded with GTA V, so that was mid Sept 2013, probably cheaper now if you shop around .

Are they relevant still? I saw Dragon Age Inq on PS3 and it's astounding looking, haven't seen it on other consoles to compare, but it is easily the best looking PS3 game to date.
Post edited December 03, 2014 by F1ach
Posted December 03, 2014
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snowkatt: ...yeaaah the megadrive snes saturn ps1 and n64 were wholly different machines with complete different sets fo strengths and weaknesses
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darthspudius: Oh hell my friends and I still argue which was best. Snes or Megadrive! lol

Edit: We've argued about PS1 and N64 aswell but everyone knows the N64 was shite! :P
i prefer the megadrive mostly cause im an unashamed sega fan but the snes has its moments

and the n64 ....ehhh
i tried to play it again 2 years ago the low polygon models assaulted my eyes

the goggles did nothing and the washed out milky textures made everything a blurr

id rather play ps1 games they migh t look rougher but look better and more solid
Posted December 03, 2014
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darthspudius: Oh hell my friends and I still argue which was best. Snes or Megadrive! lol

Edit: We've argued about PS1 and N64 aswell but everyone knows the N64 was shite! :P
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snowkatt: i prefer the megadrive mostly cause im an unashamed sega fan but the snes has its moments

and the n64 ....ehhh
i tried to play it again 2 years ago the low polygon models assaulted my eyes

the goggles did nothing and the washed out milky textures made everything a blurr

id rather play ps1 games they migh t look rougher but look better and more solid
You're my new friend. Fuck nintendo! :P
Posted December 03, 2014
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snowkatt: i prefer the megadrive mostly cause im an unashamed sega fan but the snes has its moments

and the n64 ....ehhh
i tried to play it again 2 years ago the low polygon models assaulted my eyes

the goggles did nothing and the washed out milky textures made everything a blurr

id rather play ps1 games they migh t look rougher but look better and more solid
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darthspudius: You're my new friend. Fuck nintendo! :P
though if i am really honest id rather play the sega 32X the saturn and the dreamcast
Posted December 03, 2014
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darthspudius: You're my new friend. Fuck nintendo! :P
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snowkatt: though if i am really honest id rather play the sega 32X the saturn and the dreamcast
I never had the pleasure of a 32x and Saturn. They were quite rare in my part of Scotland. Dreamcast however was criminally under used.
Posted December 03, 2014
If game consoles disappear, be prepared for more COD,AC, and to say bye bye indie games.
Also, I play mostly local with my friends and brothers (what year is this ?).

Also Nintendo is Quasimodo, Sony is Gringoire and Microsoft is Frollo :)
Posted December 03, 2014
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snowkatt: though if i am really honest id rather play the sega 32X the saturn and the dreamcast
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darthspudius: I never had the pleasure of a 32x and Saturn. They were quite rare in my part of Scotland. Dreamcast however was criminally under used.
i actually traded my red psp for a 32 X

...i have no regrets

the sheer otherworldyness of playing model 1 games cut down model 1 games but still model 1 games
like star wars arcade
virtua fighter
and virtua racing on my megadrive just blows my mind

though the 32 X for me mostly is cool for what it could have been not what it is
Posted December 03, 2014
If you ask me why i buy consoles (and considering that i also play on pc):

- First of all, my laptop can't run most of the recent games (and i want to play Shogun 2 but those 3~5m loading...) and i use a laptop because it's... portable. :) (in a serious note, i take my laptop with me when i stay away from home for a few days).

- I know that when i put that game on the console it will run normally (not considering bugs and patches), i don't need to configure the shadows, the bloom, the textures, etc. And it's also a "mental" thing, i could get a better pc and run games better than, let's say, ps4, but i know i will hate that feeling of having to play a game on High and not ultra while on the console i'll know that i'm having the same experience that all other console users.

- While it's shitty that i have to pay to play online and there are companies doing the same on consoles (FU EA) i HATE playing online on the pc because of the servers controlled by players/clans, it's mostly dumb rules and admins abusing the power because they don't agree with what you're doing.
Besides, on the consoles you can just put the game, select multiplayer and just play normally (again, considering there isn't any problem with the game), on the pc there are games where you have to run a side client to make the server (Terraria or Project Zomboid), open ports, configure the server, etc.
Not that it's always a bad thing since it also gives you control over the server and it allows you to play old games with the servers closed through virtual lans.

But i think PS4 will be my last console, since the PC is moving towards to a hybrid i can imagine buying a pc, connecting to a hdtv, using the controller (for some games) and using that Steam Big Picture mode...



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TanguyLOZ: If game consoles disappear, be prepared for more COD,AC, and to say bye bye indie games.
Also, I play mostly local with my friends and brothers (what year is this ?).

Also Nintendo is Quasimodo, Sony is Gringoire and Microsoft is Frollo :)
That makes no sense... COD's and AC's sell more on consoles, they wouldn't make more games like that if the consoles were to disappear and i'm willing to bet that are some indie games that sell better on PC than consoles.
Post edited December 03, 2014 by Cyraxpt
Posted December 03, 2014
PC games are cheap, backwards compatibility, huge library, a PC with a console price range will run almost everything that the consoles do (seriously, if it's just about the games, tone down settings and you are fine), you can hookup a bunch of accessories, you can upgrade if you have money to spend, MODS (can't stress this enough), better multitasking, etc...

consoles = exclusive games, nothing more than that.


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darthspudius: Edit: We've argued about PS1 and N64 aswell but everyone knows the N64 was shite! :P
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snowkatt: id rather play ps1 games they migh t look rougher but look better and more solid
( '_')

I hate you both.
Posted December 03, 2014
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neurasthenya: PC games are cheap, backwards compatibility, huge library, a PC with a console price range will run almost everything that the consoles do (seriously, if it's just about the games, tone down settings and you are fine), you can hookup a bunch of accessories, you can upgrade if you have money to spend, MODS (can't stress this enough), better multitasking, etc...

consoles = exclusive games, nothing more than that.

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snowkatt: id rather play ps1 games they migh t look rougher but look better and more solid
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neurasthenya: ( '_')

I hate you both.
Haha! :P
Posted December 03, 2014
I love my console. I have an XBOX 360 and it plays games on my big screen and lets me watch YouTube with relative ease. I also love that I can play something on it and not have to worry about tech issues (for the most part). Just plug it in and go play.

PC is certainly my biggest love, though. Even with tech issues, the games are more varied, the options bigger and the greatest games ever made are, for the most part, only on PC.
Posted December 03, 2014
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Cyraxpt: That makes no sense... COD's and AC's sell more on consoles, they wouldn't make more games like that if the consoles were to disappear and i'm willing to bet that are some indie games that sell better on PC than consoles.
I disagree on the first point but opinion, what can I say :)

Just wanted to say that consoles have helped selling indie games too like Super meat boy or Journey, and it's pretty hard for them to get a name when they don't have money for advertisement.
Posted December 03, 2014
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Urnoev: The only real argument for me is the ease of plug-and-play, you don't have to worry about anything and just play.
Your whole post, just took the words right out of my mouth... Except that is no longer the case :( Wasn't it the Wii-U that had an enormous day-one 2Gig patch early on? The PS4 needs updates too as a number of features are still being implemented; And the XBone tried to be always-online taking away that 'plug-and-play' catch-phrase that Microsoft used for USB devices back in the Windows 98 days.

The ease of transporting the system is still there since you don't need to take a monitor with you, you can usually hook it up to any TV which is a plus, and most places have a TV at least; Course with Monitors and TV's now accepting HDMI that problem goes away...

The 8th Gen is totally irrelevant, and more and more so as more XBone-only titles keep making their way to PC/Steam. Even Square Enix's stance seems iffy as they are bringing FF-13 to PC.

I guess the more important question, is will they be relevant later? The population have said pretty clearly they are iffy about a $500 consoles, while $350 sells like hot cakes. That puts huge limitations on the hardware of what they can shove into the boxes or handhelds.

You know it would really be something if the hardware between the two consoles could plug one into the other and they could utilize the other's raw CPU/RAM/Hard Drive space to get a boost. Then the cost of purchasing 2-3 different consoles wouldn't matter so much because they would combine to give you a superior rig, rather than 3 mediocre rigs combined to the cost of $1,200... And the non-upgradable state of the consoles makes them guaranteed to be obsolete soon... so sad...
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