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Posted April 20, 2009
So this is both a "please add this game to GOG" and an idea for criteria when deciding which games should be added next to GOG's catalog. Has the GOG team considered, since their main attraction is "DRM-free" games, actually looking first to add games which had upon their release very draconian DRM schemes, such as Starforce? And here is my request, one game I would love to see on GOG is Medieval Lords :Build Defend Expand" It was an awesome city-building/RTS game, which allowed you to have 1st person view of your cities. :D That game used Starforce when it was released, so maybe GOG should look into getting it, and offer it without the DRM premium. : ) Got this idea from seeing that many games already in GOG, like Spellforce Platinum, originally came with Starforce.
Posted April 22, 2009
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Posted April 22, 2009
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Posted April 22, 2009
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drmlessgames: So this is both a "please add this game to GOG" and an idea for criteria when deciding which games should be added next to GOG's catalog. Has the GOG team considered, since their main attraction is "DRM-free" games, actually looking first to add games which had upon their release very draconian DRM schemes, such as Starforce? And here is my request, one game I would love to see on GOG is Medieval Lords :Build Defend Expand" It was an awesome city-building/RTS game, which allowed you to have 1st person view of your cities. :D That game used Starforce when it was released, so maybe GOG should look into getting it, and offer it without the DRM premium. : ) Got this idea from seeing that many games already in GOG, like Spellforce Platinum, originally came with Starforce.

They already did that with Gothic 2 Gold....that used a bad version of Starforce.
Posted April 22, 2009
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drmlessgames: So this is both a "please add this game to GOG" and an idea for criteria when deciding which games should be added next to GOG's catalog. Has the GOG team considered, since their main attraction is "DRM-free" games, actually looking first to add games which had upon their release very draconian DRM schemes, such as Starforce? And here is my request, one game I would love to see on GOG is Medieval Lords :Build Defend Expand" It was an awesome city-building/RTS game, which allowed you to have 1st person view of your cities. :D That game used Starforce when it was released, so maybe GOG should look into getting it, and offer it without the DRM premium. : ) Got this idea from seeing that many games already in GOG, like Spellforce Platinum, originally came with Starforce.
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JudasIscariot: They already did that with Gothic 2 Gold....that used a bad version of Starforce.

Really? Hmm, oh sh**! I bought a copy of Gothic 2, the original release, so does that mean i have starforce now?? OH SH**!!!!!
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michaelleung:

Nice view
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Posted April 22, 2009
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JudasIscariot: They already did that with Gothic 2 Gold....that used a bad version of Starforce.
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drmlessgames: Really? Hmm, oh sh**! I bought a copy of Gothic 2, the original release, so does that mean i have starforce now?? OH SH**!!!!!
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michaelleung:

Nice view

I don't know which version of Gothic 2 Gold you have but most versions came with Starforce that wouldn't recognize the right disc or any disc at all for that matter....
Posted April 22, 2009
Well most old games, released circa 1990s, don't have very tight DRM. I think this bullshit only began around 2002, when EA started using Securom in more and more of its games
Posted April 22, 2009
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drmlessgames: Really? Hmm, oh sh**! I bought a copy of Gothic 2, the original release, so does that mean i have starforce now?? OH SH**!!!!!
Nice view
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JudasIscariot: I don't know which version of Gothic 2 Gold you have but most versions came with Starforce that wouldn't recognize the right disc or any disc at all for that matter....

Do the original (not gold, without the expansion) copies of gothic 2 count too?
Posted April 22, 2009
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lowyhong: Well most old games, released circa 1990s, don't have very tight DRM. I think this bullshit only began around 2002, when EA started using Securom in more and more of its games

I wouldn't say older games didn't have DRM, just that they used different kinds of DRM compared to what we're used to seeing (bad sectors on floppies, dongles, code wheels, etc). DRM through low-level drivers and online authentication is the more recent stuff that's now become what most people think of when they hear "DRM".
Posted April 22, 2009
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lowyhong: Well most old games, released circa 1990s, don't have very tight DRM. I think this bullshit only began around 2002, when EA started using Securom in more and more of its games

When was the first version of securom released?
Posted April 22, 2009
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lowyhong: Well most old games, released circa 1990s, don't have very tight DRM. I think this bullshit only began around 2002, when EA started using Securom in more and more of its games
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drmlessgames: When was the first version of securom released?

1998, 1999 I think.
Posted April 22, 2009
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drmlessgames: When was the first version of securom released?
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michaelleung: 1998, 1999 I think.

Ah. But, games in the late last decade did have some form of DRM, didnt Sacrifice have online verification when released?
Posted April 22, 2009
Hmm ok I must have been playing too many ARRR YE BE HAVIN SCURVY MATEY games to notice the original copies came with DRM :\
Posted April 22, 2009
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drmlessgames: When was the first version of securom released?
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michaelleung: 1998, 1999 I think.

1997 actually.
When talking about SecuROM, you need to understand that there are several different versions of it out there. Early versions of it were completely ineffective at preventing piracy, but they weren't bad for your system or really all that difficult to use. They were little more than a CD check or license key entry built right into the game's executable. There was no online activation, no hidden drivers, no extra software to uninstall, none of the bullshit that started when EA first began using SecuROM 7.x. So, if the game has a version of SecuROM that is prior to 7.x, you probably never actually noticed it and it doesn't do any of the things we all hate.
Posted April 22, 2009
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JudasIscariot: I don't know which version of Gothic 2 Gold you have but most versions came with Starforce that wouldn't recognize the right disc or any disc at all for that matter....

The version of Gothic 2 Gold that came with Gothic Universe actually didn't have any DRM as far as I could see. No online activation, CD key or even disc check. Same with the first one, though Gothic 3 that came with it had malfunctioning DRM, so it wouldn't run, however the DRM is removed in the community patch for it, so it's not a problem, as it's pretty much needed to play that game.
Anyways, I would like some older games with archaic DRM types, like code wheels, or typing in phrases from the manual. Those were annoying, especially if you managed to lose what you needed..
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