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Oh my! This tickles me in all manner of unseemly places...

Still, I'm not jumping the gun like I did for GalCiv 2. It's either GOG or not. Do the right thing, Stardock!
Post edited October 15, 2013 by Spinorial
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Sulibor: I liked the 2nd part a lot and I would really be looking forward to this game, but I can not stand Brad Wardell after "Gamer's Bill of Rights" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamers_Bill_of_Rights) PR-stunt. 4 tears after signing this "pact" Brad's company goes hand in hand with Steam that breaks at least half of the points from the list.

I am sorry for the rant but I disregard hypocrites.
Pretty much my feelings as well.
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Sulibor: I liked the 2nd part a lot and I would really be looking forward to this game, but I can not stand Brad Wardell after "Gamer's Bill of Rights" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamers_Bill_of_Rights) PR-stunt. 4 tears after signing this "pact" Brad's company goes hand in hand with Steam that breaks at least half of the points from the list.

I am sorry for the rant but I disregard hypocrites.
I don't think Steam even gets to half but I do agree with you that they broke their bill of rights quite a lot. Although personally I'd name the release of Elemental as a shining example, and the selling of Impulse to Gamestop of all places ...
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Sulibor: I liked the 2nd part a lot and I would really be looking forward to this game, but I can not stand Brad Wardell after "Gamer's Bill of Rights" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamers_Bill_of_Rights) PR-stunt. 4 tears after signing this "pact" Brad's company goes hand in hand with Steam that breaks at least half of the points from the list.
Indeed; they may have had a solid business reason for going Steam exclusive, but they'd been branding themselves as a DRM-free haven for years leading up to that heel-turn.


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BoxOfSnoo: But Stardock and Ironclad are very closely related.
They're completely separate entities; Ironclad was the developer, Stardock was the publisher.
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Pheace: Although personally I'd name the release of Elemental as a shining example, and the selling of Impulse to Gamestop of all places ...
You might find this an interesting read then (go to the Stardock Sucks part).

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Darvin: Indeed; they may have had a solid business reason for going Steam exclusive, but they'd been branding themselves as a DRM-free haven for years leading up to that heel-turn.
Not really. They were against inconvenient DRM (like Starforce, Tages, and Securom), not DRM in general. Just take a look at GalCiv 2.
If you bought the retail edition, then you could install the game wherever you wanted, because there was no copy-protection on the CD and no DRM. However, if you wanted access to the patches, then you needed to register the game, binding it to an account (which also gave you access to the digital version).
If you bought the digital version, then it was already bound to an account, and each installation required a one-time online-activation.

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Darvin: They're completely separate entities; Ironclad was the developer, Stardock was the publisher.
Stardock helped Ironclad quite a lot during the development of Sins, even lending Ironclad some of their programmers at times.
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Gaunathor: Not really. They were against inconvenient DRM (like Starforce, Tages, and Securom), not DRM in general. Just take a look at GalCiv 2.
If you bought the retail edition, then you could install the game wherever you wanted, because there was no copy-protection on the CD and no DRM. However, if you wanted access to the patches, then you needed to register the game, binding it to an account (which also gave you access to the digital version).
If you bought the digital version, then it was already bound to an account, and each installation required a one-time online-activation.
It was possible to transfer the patched game from one computer to another manually by migrating all the files (there might have been a few other steps, but I'm pretty sure there was no need to re-authenticate). It's less a case of DRM and more a case of no automated way of doing the transfer. I had multiple Sins installs on the same computer (for modding purposes) back in the day.

Stardock helped Ironclad quite a lot during the development of Sins, even lending Ironclad some of their programmers at times.
It's true that they worked closely on the project, but they're still different entities who went their separate ways afterwards.
Post edited October 15, 2013 by Darvin
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BoxOfSnoo: But Stardock and Ironclad are very closely related.
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Darvin: They're completely separate entities; Ironclad was the developer, Stardock was the publisher.
FWIW, Wikipedia says:

"The first third-party game Stardock published was Sins of a Solar Empire. The publishing arrangement worked out between Stardock and Ironclad Games was unusual in that the two companies integrated their teams at every level."

See http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/132039/postmortem_ironcladstardocks_.php?page=3
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Gaunathor: Damn it, you beat me to it.

Great news regardless. Well, except for the Steam-only part. <_<
I was happy then I saw Steam-only in your post. Hope that at least we can copy out the data files and play it drm-free like we could in GalCiv2.
I forgot this part from the article:
Additionally, as part of its 20th birthday celebration, Stardock games will be featured on sale next week via Steam and on Stardock’s own online store.
I'm thinking of picking up the sequel then based on what I've read about it.

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cw8: I was happy then I saw Steam-only in your post. Hope that at least we can copy out the data files and play it drm-free like we could in GalCiv2.
Could? Is that not possible anymore?
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Nirth: Could? Is that not possible anymore?
*Can. Sorry.
http://forums.galciv3.com/449009
I think people here would like to know that I have added a wishlist entry for Galactic Civilizations 3. I'm trying to show Stardock that there are many people who care about getting non-Steam version of this game. I'm hoping for at least 10k votes (as soon as possible) to try influence their decisions. More votes later down the road would be helpful.

I tried to post a link to where to vote, but this website wouldn't let me. Instead, you can find it if you go to the community wishlist and enter into search:

Galactic Civilizations 3
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DivineWrath: I think people here would like to know that I have added a wishlist entry for Galactic Civilizations 3. I'm trying to show Stardock that there are many people who care about getting non-Steam version of this game. I'm hoping for at least 10k votes (as soon as possible) to try influence their decisions. More votes later down the road would be helpful.

I tried to post a link to where to vote, but this website wouldn't let me. Instead, you can find it if you go to the community wishlist and enter into search:

Galactic Civilizations 3
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/galactic_civilizations_3


:)
Post edited October 16, 2013 by ne_zavarj
@ ne_zavarj

Thanks for providing a link for me. I'm not used to using these forums yet.
Great news in general. I must have overlooked a possible release date. Was one announced already?

Steam only sucks for me, and I would be interested in the single player part mostly but nevertheless expected given the history of Stardock. I'll make an exception but not buy right away as I did with GalCiv2. But since I loved the predecessor particularly for the combination of Civilization game mechanics and customization of fleet, I guess I have to like it in whatever dress it comes.