The thing here is, they're the 2 MOST experienced players, Z having played elsewhere, and I think nmillar is in most of the games on this site. I have to double check to be certain, but I think he's got a game over Rob, then Vitek, then probably myself. There's quite a few people who have just joined and only have a game or two of experience before this one started. I just found it quite interesting when I was looking at things.

Rob and Nmillar are tied! unless you count that Millar played two characters in game 6?

I was considering claiming to be a new player in an attempt to avoid the nightkill, but I'm not really sure about the "picking out the strong" theory. Partly because killing people based on stuff outside the game seems a bit harsh, and partly because I can think of better reasons for both those kills. Would you like to hear my reason for Zchnique's kill? I was kinda proud of myself for thinking of it at the time but I didn't want to say because, well,
when someone gets all murdered and you have a good reason for their death, doesn't look good.
And it didn't really seem to help.

But we could get all poirot on it and try and work out the psychology of the killer by the motive.

That would be assuming this motive is the true motive which of course it might not be. Or probably isn't. Anyway. here:

http://www.gog.com/en/forum/general/forum_mafia_game_10/post48

Well I remembered it as him saying something like "and it that game I was vanilla town"... maybe he said that later, but anyway. This admission of trying to draw the nightkill? Why would he admit to that unless it was a double-bluff? I didn't think of it at the time because I was too busy thinking "is he town or mafia?" but I guess someone on the mafia would be thinking "is he powered or not?" and that bluff might have given himself away to them.

So if that is the case we're looking for a good poker player on the mafia.
Of course that might be completely wrong and team mafia are blinking at their screens wondering how I could be so stupid. I will get you!!

Yeah. Mindgames. The mafia should be pretty unnerved by now. Shouldn't you TwilightBard?

Vote Twilightbard

Postscript:
I read all that back and it sounds stupidly mafiesque (especially "Would you like to hear my reason for Zchnique's kill?" I don't mean 'would you like to hear why I killed zchnique?' I hope I'm not as stupid as that. Maybe I am?)
Well anyway, I was considering not posting it but I think I am not in the right frame of mind to not. You're reading it now aren't you?

I think the mocking was more targeted towards itai, not you. :-p

It was already twilight and he was dead so he had no reason to lie. As neutral he played solo and didn't have to help his team by some false statements.

I am not voting you becasue my no. 2 suspect is Robbeasy right now and unless he is trying to bus you really hard you are not both scums. If you are both scums and he is trying to bus you so hard, I am glad I am not on your team. :-)

Votecount:

2 - Muttly13 (Twilightbard, Robbeasy)
2 - Twilightbard (Vitek, Joesapphire)
1 - Robbeasy (Muttly)

Not voting: Pazzer, Stuart, Peanutbrittle, Itai.sharim

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is 1am GMT 5 February.

Just another prod....

Aw Dammit I thought I was choosing someone at random to try and get a reaction and turns out it was just the same guy Vitek voted for three posts earlier.

Ah well. Seems I did get a reaction that seems sort of unnatural? does anybody else see it?

Yeah, Rodzaju's reaction sounds forced.

Very well. I have to answer this ridiculous accusation, as you continues to show scummy behaviour. There is one reason for the swing vote on Baron, and its obvious. Everybody knew he was at best Survivor, at worst Mafia. Knowing he was one of those two, the logical move was to lynch him. To say it makes very little sense shows your thinking to be flawed and out of step to how a town player would think. Of course it makes sense! When he flipped survivor I naturally focus back on you. Never did I think Baron was scum - only when he claimed Survivor did it become more sensible to lynch him to verify, then focus back on you!

Also - please tell me where I came up with the idea both you and Baron were scum - I'd love to see it. Last I looked, I was on Barons side in thinking you were the scum. And could you point out exactly where I'm now 'using' the fact that Baron was 'innocent' to push on you?? As you did with Baron, you have concocted a post of half-truths and downright fabrications to come up with a flimsy case against your next target.

I mean - you're trying to get people to think that I chose two people I 'possibly knew' were not scum' and tried to pit everyone against you both?! That makes zero sense, you and Baron were at each other with very little interference from me. I never once tried to pit everyone against you both. I only thought you were scum.

My vote stays on you and gets stronger by the day.

Hmm, youre totally right. I horked that up right good and misread your inital post - http://www.gog.com/en/forum/general/forum_mafia_game_10/post437 I had remembered it as Baron and I.

I still stand by the vote comment, being that it makes little sense to me. But the rest is in fact a figment of my imagination. Thats what I get for leaving the game for a few days. Not that I think this makes you town or anything, but you are correct my statements as they pertain to the imagined Baron/Muttly grand scheme arent accurate.

Now, who the heck did make that statement? Now I have to go back and read again.

unvote robbeasy

My 2 strongest suspects are Rob and Muttly. Think if Muttly flips mafia then Itai is mafia too.

Rob ignored Joe's question asking for example(s) were he'd done a similar thing to what he claims Muttly was doing. Which makes me suspect that it's actually him who's pulling off this great mafia ploy.

On the other hand I can see the mafia being over confident after killing the doc and laying a trap. Like Rob suggested. Also Muttly just seems too obvious which makes me doubt him.

@Vitek what have I missed about Twilight?

Really don't like my vote being idle so vote Muttly.

erm - do I have invisible posts or are people just looking for made up reasons to attack me? See post 539 my friend.

Think that was the third or fourth time Joe had asked the question. Which leads me to believe you had been ignoring it. As could see you missing it once but more than that just seems odd.

The more I think about it the more certain I am that Muttly is mafia along with Itai. As there's just too many things which don't add up. My vote will be staying where it is for the rest of the day.

Such as? Anything I have not addressed at least. If its already been stated I dont really have anything new to add to what I have already said. Just curious if you have some insight beyond the standard "he dared to share his thoughts" tact.

Rob and Vitek are my two main suspects at the moment.

Rob - two reasons which are based on lynching the Baron.
1. Lynching Baron so quickly without letting nmillar to answer the question.
2. Acting as hammer for Baron's lynch on D2 while on D3 attacking muttly for starting the wagon.

Vitek:
1. Pushing players to claims, I was sure he was gonna vote muttly now that he is on L-2 but maybe he wants to be the hammer. Can't really see Vitek being lynched for that - and I don't think he has ever been lynched on this site.