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muttly13: See, I get Jefequeso vote. /snip
He never said as much. The only thing he said was Zchinque is triggering his alarm bells. You built an (plausible) explanation based on what you are thinking. But, you didn't try to build an explanation for Zchinque. What I'm trying to say is that Zchinque, Jefequeso and Vitek are all doing the same thing, which is voting without giving reasons. However, Zchinque is the only one at least pretending to have one.
I support Zchinque.
meaning....?
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itai.sharim: About the votes of Vitek and Jefequeso that originated from it - I don't understand any of them. I would like to receive some explanation about those.
Almost all of Z's posts from the 20-30 range seem anti-town, or at least suspicious. He claims that he's identified at least 2 scum in the first 15 posts, then threaten Joe (post 17). That combined with post 25 seems like almost a power role claim. It's then revealed in posts 44 and 45 that, in a previous game, he spent his time throwing the entire town into confusion, which seems to me to be one of the most anti-town things you could do. The mafia already know who's town and who isn't, so confusing the town just puts us at an ever greater disadvantage, and makes it easier for the mafia to do what they do best: spread dissent and cause us to mis-lynch.

So I don't trust him. Either he's scum, or he's a townie who is effectively anti-town. Does this mean that I'm going to push for a lynch? No. There's not enough evidence yet. But at this point, I think he's the most suspicious person.
Perhaps I need to look at this whole thing from a different angle. So even though I still think you are still a tiny bit suspicious...

Unvote Stuart
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muttly13: See, I get Jefequeso vote. /snip
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itai.sharim: He never said as much. The only thing he said was Zchinque is triggering his alarm bells. You built an (plausible) explanation based on what you are thinking. But, you didn't try to build an explanation for Zchinque. What I'm trying to say is that Zchinque, Jefequeso and Vitek are all doing the same thing, which is voting without giving reasons. However, Zchinque is the only one at least pretending to have one.
Untrue. Jefequeso did provide data in his vote post. Maybe not as verbose as one would like, but enough for me to feel he was thinking along the same lines I was. Z, and to pretty much the same extent Vitek, have provided zero. If you have any idea why Z voted Nmillar I would very much like to hear it.
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itai.sharim: He never said as much. The only thing he said was Zchinque is triggering his alarm bells. You built an (plausible) explanation based on what you are thinking. But, you didn't try to build an explanation for Zchinque. What I'm trying to say is that Zchinque, Jefequeso and Vitek are all doing the same thing, which is voting without giving reasons. However, Zchinque is the only one at least pretending to have one.
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muttly13: Untrue. Jefequeso did provide data in his vote post. Maybe not as verbose as one would like, but enough for me to feel he was thinking along the same lines I was. Z, and to pretty much the same extent Vitek, have provided zero. If you have any idea why Z voted Nmillar I would very much like to hear it.
As would I
Votecount:


2 – Nmillar (Vitek, Zchinque)
1 – Stuart9001 (Red Baron)
1 – Crazybear (Peanutbrittle)
1 – Robbeasy (Nmillar)
1 – Muttly13 (JoeSapphire)
1 – Zchinque (Jefequeso)

Not voting: Crazybear, Stuart, Muttly, Orryrro, Itai.sharim, Robbeasy

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
It would seem to me that this is just Zchinque playing a game of confusion, I really can't imagine anyone deliberately throwing that much suspicion on themselves without hoping to gain something from it (or having a suicidal tendency).

He has thrown out a totally random and unexplained vote and everyone is now focused on this and reacting to it. I think it's a ploy and only makes me suspicious for one reason, and that is Vitek's vote. I think it's a tad suspicious, joining in without any explanation other than "I support Zchinque". Is this based on his previous games with Zchinque, or does he know something about Zchinques role?
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stuart9001: It would seem to me that this is just Zchinque playing a game of confusion, I really can't imagine anyone deliberately throwing that much suspicion on themselves without hoping to gain something from it (or having a suicidal tendency).

He has thrown out a totally random and unexplained vote and everyone is now focused on this and reacting to it. I think it's a ploy and only makes me suspicious for one reason, and that is Vitek's vote. I think it's a tad suspicious, joining in without any explanation other than "I support Zchinque". Is this based on his previous games with Zchinque, or does he know something about Zchinques role?
What exactly is this ploy trying to achieve?
You'll have to ask Zchinque that.
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muttly13: If you have any idea why Z voted Nmillar I would very much like to hear it.
I have provided two possible reasons in #149 and I will provide another possibility now. Maybe he is just throwing bait and watching who is gonna bite. Works pretty well so far.

@jefequeso - I think his 2 identified scum are leftover jokes from the signup thread?
Is this nmillar thing something we should avoid asking about? Because it is mysterious to me but it is maybe you're building up something. All for now but I promise more before I catch my train tomorrow (this is a literal train in the world beyond internet I'm not breadcrumbing or softclaiming anything)
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nmillar:
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JoeSapphire:
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jefequeso:
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muttly13:
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Robbeasy:
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Orryyrro:
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itai.sharim:
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Crazybear:
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Vitek:
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Red_Baron:
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PenutBrittle:
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Zchinque:
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stuart9001:
Quick question:
Is anyone expecting to be out of contact for more than 5 of the next 12 days?
nope.