Posted December 19, 2011
Vitek
Master of Karate and friendship for everyone
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Red_Baron
Best Rant Ever!
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Crazybear
Old School Gamer
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Posted December 20, 2011
If I come off as aggressive its just cause thats the kinda guy/player I am.
I felt as if I was being singled out for no reason and went on the offensive. If I make it a while in this game you'll certainly see more of that. It's just how I am.
I still don't see how my post was any kind of code. And have yet to see proof that it was. All we have now are Stuart's baseless claim and my aggressive defense.
I felt as if I was being singled out for no reason and went on the offensive. If I make it a while in this game you'll certainly see more of that. It's just how I am.
I still don't see how my post was any kind of code. And have yet to see proof that it was. All we have now are Stuart's baseless claim and my aggressive defense.
CrateBoxer
The Crate Boxer
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Posted December 20, 2011
Oh oh, looks like we've got sides to pick (or not).
In my humble little opinion, I don't really see Stuart acting all that suspicious, only suspicious of others. He just kind of sounds paranoid.
Crazybear on the other hand is being very careful with all of his posts, trying very hard to refute all evidence of suspicious behaviour, and it seems like floundering. That alone is setting off warning bells. His first post seemed harmless, but it's getting too elaborate and weird.
This might be dumb, but...
vote Crazybear
...for now.
In my humble little opinion, I don't really see Stuart acting all that suspicious, only suspicious of others. He just kind of sounds paranoid.
Crazybear on the other hand is being very careful with all of his posts, trying very hard to refute all evidence of suspicious behaviour, and it seems like floundering. That alone is setting off warning bells. His first post seemed harmless, but it's getting too elaborate and weird.
This might be dumb, but...
vote Crazybear
...for now.
stuart9001
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From United Kingdom
Posted December 20, 2011
Oh dear. I've just realised what you mean CrazyBear, I have no idea how your quote ended up being attributed to Vitek in my post (#101), I assure you it was not deliberate, Ive just noticed it now!!!! *blushes*. I guess I quoted Vitek's post #98 and deleted the wrong bit.
I was meant to be quoting you. Apologies, that was a genuine mistake.
On with the show.
You ask me why I think you were sending a coded message?
Quote CrazyBear - "I second this, just make this easier on us and fly that mafia flag high, be proud to be mafia, come on, all your mafia brothers and sisters will be so proud of you."
How I interpreted this - "Just make this easier on us my mafia colleagues and join this bandwagon, we will be so proud when we lynch our first innocent townie". My thinking being that if there are enough scum in the game then the votes could have been pushed up lynch level.
I was actually just "shaking trees" but the aggressive comeback made me think I had touched a raw nerve. As several people have said in the early stages of the game votes fly around for the most trivial reasons.
PeanutBrittle "I don't really see Stuart acting all that suspicious, only suspicious of others. He just kind of sounds paranoid."
Yes I am. I'm stuck in a hotel with 13 strangers, and some of them are trying to kill me!!!!!
I was meant to be quoting you. Apologies, that was a genuine mistake.
On with the show.
You ask me why I think you were sending a coded message?
Quote CrazyBear - "I second this, just make this easier on us and fly that mafia flag high, be proud to be mafia, come on, all your mafia brothers and sisters will be so proud of you."
How I interpreted this - "Just make this easier on us my mafia colleagues and join this bandwagon, we will be so proud when we lynch our first innocent townie". My thinking being that if there are enough scum in the game then the votes could have been pushed up lynch level.
I was actually just "shaking trees" but the aggressive comeback made me think I had touched a raw nerve. As several people have said in the early stages of the game votes fly around for the most trivial reasons.
PeanutBrittle "I don't really see Stuart acting all that suspicious, only suspicious of others. He just kind of sounds paranoid."
Yes I am. I'm stuck in a hotel with 13 strangers, and some of them are trying to kill me!!!!!
JoeSapphire
Consultant Liar
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From United Kingdom
Posted December 20, 2011
So sorry friends, it's been too long.
Day one. It's intensely frustrating. I haven't got the hang of it yet, perhaps it will come with time but I seem to be getting worse at it as games go by. Enough of that! No-one wants to hear me harp on.
Zchnique seems to have a sort of calculated unpredictability. It might be what's giving energy to the game but it makes it difficult to read him. I hope you understand what I mean by that but if it makes no sense I can attempt to clarify. For the moment though Zchinique is filed under "don't think too hard about" in my mental map of the players, at this stage of the game.
Crazybear is too. I'm aware that being the center of attention draws more attention and creates pressure to become defensive drawing yet more attention. I haven't read anything suspicious into ahything he's written yet.
I'm glad of stuart for driving the game along, but don't know what to make of him at this conjecture. He's on my "would like him to turn out mafia" list so I'll always be a little suspicious of him.
Muttly13 is still my favourite suspect. He's kept quiet and let things continue without adding much input (but wait!! I've just noticed someone else who has been VERY lurky! It must be proof of mafioscity!! the culprit it JOESAPPH-oh wait forget I said anything) I'm intrigued in him enough to vote muttly13].
Let's try and list the remaining players of the top of my head - I've named 5 including me so there's eight left.
Vitek
Peanutbrittle
Mount Sharim
RedBaron
OF COURSE Nick and Rob
two left... new guys or old favourites?
damn. Jefequeso yes. Sorry.
and....
Orryyrro!! I had to check the posts because I couldn't remember him. Not sure what that implies. probably nothing. Okay so quickly now:
Vitek - Same old. Could be mafia. my instict says no but it's a very faint malnourished instinct. Who's the most mafia looking player here Vitek?
PeanutBrittle - Happy to condemn. Could be mafia. What \re your reads for Zchnique, Orryyrro and me?
Sharim - can't remember much. picky about Zchnique's oddities. could be mafia. This is a question that got thrown around in game 6 - Why SHOULD you be lynched?
Baron - difficult to read. could be town. Care to take a meaningless/completely contrived guess at who the first nightkill might be?
nmillar - strangely quiet. Got any gut reactions?
Robbeasy - I think more of the same. Why the vote for millar? (aside from the obvious)
Jefequeso - could be mafia, I'm leaning towards thinking he's town but then I don't know why and it's probably a silly thing to think so.... If you had to name 3 or 4 mafia now who would you name?
Orryyrro - I'm remembering getting a towny vibe from him this game but I can't remember why. I'll skim over his posts now because towny vibes make me suspicious.
Okay we haven't heard very much from him at all. It's still early on yet so there's not much suspicious in that. Bit of common sense from him with his wisdom on random voting which might be where I get my townaura feeling from. But I reackon common sense has the trick of making one seem town but doesn't really mean much either way.
Question for Orryyrro.... who's your towniest read?
So there you are. Not much in way of thoughts, but we're still at the beginning of the game so let's get some energy up! (and try not to disappear for a few days eh?).
If you really want to answer any of the questions that haven't been directed at you specifically I don't mind! please do!
And sorry again for lurking!
Day one. It's intensely frustrating. I haven't got the hang of it yet, perhaps it will come with time but I seem to be getting worse at it as games go by. Enough of that! No-one wants to hear me harp on.
Zchnique seems to have a sort of calculated unpredictability. It might be what's giving energy to the game but it makes it difficult to read him. I hope you understand what I mean by that but if it makes no sense I can attempt to clarify. For the moment though Zchinique is filed under "don't think too hard about" in my mental map of the players, at this stage of the game.
Crazybear is too. I'm aware that being the center of attention draws more attention and creates pressure to become defensive drawing yet more attention. I haven't read anything suspicious into ahything he's written yet.
I'm glad of stuart for driving the game along, but don't know what to make of him at this conjecture. He's on my "would like him to turn out mafia" list so I'll always be a little suspicious of him.
Muttly13 is still my favourite suspect. He's kept quiet and let things continue without adding much input (but wait!! I've just noticed someone else who has been VERY lurky! It must be proof of mafioscity!! the culprit it JOESAPPH-oh wait forget I said anything) I'm intrigued in him enough to vote muttly13].
Let's try and list the remaining players of the top of my head - I've named 5 including me so there's eight left.
Vitek
Peanutbrittle
Mount Sharim
RedBaron
OF COURSE Nick and Rob
two left... new guys or old favourites?
damn. Jefequeso yes. Sorry.
and....
Orryyrro!! I had to check the posts because I couldn't remember him. Not sure what that implies. probably nothing. Okay so quickly now:
Vitek - Same old. Could be mafia. my instict says no but it's a very faint malnourished instinct. Who's the most mafia looking player here Vitek?
PeanutBrittle - Happy to condemn. Could be mafia. What \re your reads for Zchnique, Orryyrro and me?
Sharim - can't remember much. picky about Zchnique's oddities. could be mafia. This is a question that got thrown around in game 6 - Why SHOULD you be lynched?
Baron - difficult to read. could be town. Care to take a meaningless/completely contrived guess at who the first nightkill might be?
nmillar - strangely quiet. Got any gut reactions?
Robbeasy - I think more of the same. Why the vote for millar? (aside from the obvious)
Jefequeso - could be mafia, I'm leaning towards thinking he's town but then I don't know why and it's probably a silly thing to think so.... If you had to name 3 or 4 mafia now who would you name?
Orryyrro - I'm remembering getting a towny vibe from him this game but I can't remember why. I'll skim over his posts now because towny vibes make me suspicious.
Okay we haven't heard very much from him at all. It's still early on yet so there's not much suspicious in that. Bit of common sense from him with his wisdom on random voting which might be where I get my townaura feeling from. But I reackon common sense has the trick of making one seem town but doesn't really mean much either way.
Question for Orryyrro.... who's your towniest read?
So there you are. Not much in way of thoughts, but we're still at the beginning of the game so let's get some energy up! (and try not to disappear for a few days eh?).
If you really want to answer any of the questions that haven't been directed at you specifically I don't mind! please do!
And sorry again for lurking!
Crazybear
Old School Gamer
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From United States
Posted December 20, 2011
PenutBrittle: Oh oh, looks like we've got sides to pick (or not).
In my humble little opinion, I don't really see Stuart acting all that suspicious, only suspicious of others. He just kind of sounds paranoid.
Crazybear on the other hand is being very careful with all of his posts, trying very hard to refute all evidence of suspicious behaviour, and it seems like floundering. That alone is setting off warning bells. His first post seemed harmless, but it's getting too elaborate and weird.
This might be dumb, but...
vote Crazybear
...for now.
So by defending myself and taking people to task that makes me quilty? In my humble little opinion, I don't really see Stuart acting all that suspicious, only suspicious of others. He just kind of sounds paranoid.
Crazybear on the other hand is being very careful with all of his posts, trying very hard to refute all evidence of suspicious behaviour, and it seems like floundering. That alone is setting off warning bells. His first post seemed harmless, but it's getting too elaborate and weird.
This might be dumb, but...
vote Crazybear
...for now.
Screw this. I guess I'll just shut up then, cause I am damned if I do, and damn if I don't.
Vote count please. So we can see how large the bandwagon Stuart started is now.
Rodzaju
Official Bastard
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From United Kingdom
Posted December 20, 2011
Votecount:
3 – Crazybear (Stuart, Jefequeso, Peanutbrittle)
2 – Stuart9001 (Vitek, Crazybear)
1 – Nmillar (Robbeasy)
1 – Robbeasy (Nmillar)
1 – Muttly13 (JoeSapphire)
Not voting:Muttly, Orryrro, Red Baron, Zchinque, Itai.sharim
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
3 – Crazybear (Stuart, Jefequeso, Peanutbrittle)
2 – Stuart9001 (Vitek, Crazybear)
1 – Nmillar (Robbeasy)
1 – Robbeasy (Nmillar)
1 – Muttly13 (JoeSapphire)
Not voting:Muttly, Orryrro, Red Baron, Zchinque, Itai.sharim
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Robbeasy
Too Old
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From United Kingdom
Posted December 20, 2011
As we seem to have left RVS somewhat behind us now..
Unvote Nmillar
Unvote Nmillar
Crazybear
Old School Gamer
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From United States
Posted December 20, 2011
Ha! I feel a bit silly, I thought I had more votes and I got nervous.
I didnt want to go out on day one in my first game of Mafia.
Granted day one isn't over....
I didnt want to go out on day one in my first game of Mafia.
Granted day one isn't over....
muttly13
I must break you
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From United States
Posted December 20, 2011
Lessons learned from game 8... Though I do enjoy that I get voted for lurking with double the posts of half the people in the game. Ahhh good times.
Personally I think Crazybear is simply a gut reaction to being attacked. Stuart also seems to be trying real hard to come up with an actual case based on nothing. And since they are both new players, I assume that this is just a wild goose chase that deflects us from the real culprits.
Still curious why Zchinque feels the need to obtain Nmillars go-ahead to speak about their relationship.
Personally I think Crazybear is simply a gut reaction to being attacked. Stuart also seems to be trying real hard to come up with an actual case based on nothing. And since they are both new players, I assume that this is just a wild goose chase that deflects us from the real culprits.
Still curious why Zchinque feels the need to obtain Nmillars go-ahead to speak about their relationship.
Red_Baron
Best Rant Ever!
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From Denmark
Posted December 20, 2011
Lets take side in this matter, going with whom I find the most unreal target - unreal as in a comparison with his proponent in the discussion, whom comes of as more genuine.
Hence: vote Stuart9001
Whom the night-kill would be Joe? Well lets just say Vitek for good times sake, and then I'll claim it and almost kill myself by doing so. Nah, I honestly wouldn't have clue - So are you asking a rhetorical question which could be interpreted as you asking me: Don't you think you'll be the one to die.. which I kinda find similar to a treat. Now threatening people doesn't really come of as a town act, but I might just be reading too much into it.
Hence: vote Stuart9001
Whom the night-kill would be Joe? Well lets just say Vitek for good times sake, and then I'll claim it and almost kill myself by doing so. Nah, I honestly wouldn't have clue - So are you asking a rhetorical question which could be interpreted as you asking me: Don't you think you'll be the one to die.. which I kinda find similar to a treat. Now threatening people doesn't really come of as a town act, but I might just be reading too much into it.
Vitek
Master of Karate and friendship for everyone
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From British Indian Ocean Territory
Posted December 20, 2011
Take sides? You know one of them is scum or what? There is not exactly need to take side unless you are sure its town vs. scum fight.
Orryyrro
Flying Squirrel!
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muttly13
I must break you
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Posted December 20, 2011
@Vitek, do you believe Stuart is culpable or is this a leftover from RVS?