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Momo1991: I've never seen a blue GOG complain nor do many of us consider them Spam.
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xyem: I wonder..

If some people regard them as spam.. do they actually report it as spam to back up their classification?
I'm not sure who reports what. Frankly I just ignore what I don't want to read and move on. Getting all het up over something that is apparently not a big concern to GOG seems like a lot of wasted energy. For those that are bothered, an install of the script seems to work - so why the big deal?

What is truly harmful is calling out a specific person when that person isn't doing anything wrong by forum standards. If GOG began to specifically state "No Giveaways", then I can see an issue. But when laziness on the part of an user to click back a few pages to find something of value to them self or refusal to install a helpful script makes them decide to denigrate specific forum members, well heck that isn't the spirit of this forum - We're GOGlodytes and we're generally nice peeps even when we disagree on specific points.
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Post edited July 07, 2013 by PetrusOctavianus
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hedwards: As for your edit, I've been saying for some time that we need to have an off topic forum, but having everything that isn't directly related to a specific game or series go there, is what's caused this problem in the first place. Even just splitting it into "Game related genera" and "General General" would do wonders. And giving forum games and give aways their own subfora would do wonders as well.
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xyem: I'm pretty ambivalent to having separate forums, either or is fine by me.

However, may I suggest that if giveaways and forum games are separated from "General Discussion", the forum they be moved to be called "Community Events"?
If sub-forums were/ are to be introduced, a "Community Events" (or something along these lines) forum sounds actually like an elegant and fitting name - and able to trigger enough curiosity in new members to check it out.


EDIT:
Regarding the visiblity or use of the game specific sub-forums, maybe GOG (since we can't ourselves) could run a poll or survey to determine what would make people frequent them more?
That is, if GOG thinks that they're underused and that it should/ needs to change.
Then there's also the question - is the majority of the forum members happy with the way these sub-forums are used or does it want a change?
Post edited July 07, 2013 by HypersomniacLive
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hedwards: I don't really think it would be that hard. They could make a "general games", "general general" and that alone would do wonders for organization around here without splitting things too much.

A tag based system where things are posted to a subforum via tag, would be nice, the outward appearance would be that you're placing it into a subforum, when really, you're just tagging it and everybody could easily filter out the ones that aren't of interest would be nice.

But, ultimately, this would require some moderation, something that Mr. Gog is apparently allergic to.
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TwilightBard: The problem I see though, is people come to the general forum for help that they could go to the subforums. Most people go to General before anything else. If you're moderating and moving the giveaways then I say those need to get moved as well!

Although, tags would work. Maybe, people are already too lazy to ignore threads though, they're gonna want someone else to set that up for them.

All and all though? I'm pretty dismayed here. It's kinda sad that generosity is somehow a problem, and that it's 'All about the rep', when it's not like that rep actually matters for anything.
As I've said, I've got ADHD and going through the crap that's filling up page one makes it difficult for me to find things that actually belong here. I'm hardly the only one that has a hard time keeping up with the forum, especially during peak hours.

The problem isn't the generosity, the problem is that it we're doing basically everything in the same subforum which leads to a larger number of people than normal being irritated by the lack of any semblance of organization.
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HypersomniacLive: EDIT:
Regarding the visiblity or use of the game specific sub-forums, maybe GOG (since we can't ourselves) could run a poll or survey to determine what would make people frequent them more?

Then there's also the question - is the majority of the forum members happy with the way these sub-forums are used or does it want a change?
THink what could work better is: better forum software, phpbb or vBulletin would work wonders here, being able to "search better" mark forum as read seeing new post across the whole forum

EDIT: POsted halveway thru
Post edited July 07, 2013 by te_lanus
A little off topic, but I read the title and thought "Drowning in Spam" would make a good band name.
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Stevedog13: A little off topic, but I read the title and thought "Drowning in Spam" would make a good band name.
True.. also some good band name sequel to that could be spam: you'll never go hungry
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HypersomniacLive: EDIT:
Regarding the visiblity or use of the game specific sub-forums, maybe GOG (since we can't ourselves) could run a poll or survey to determine what would make people frequent them more?

Then there's also the question - is the majority of the forum members happy with the way these sub-forums are used or does it want a change?
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te_lanus: THink what could work better is: better forum software, phpbb or vBulletin would work wonders here, being able to "search better" mark forum as read seeing new post across the whole forum

EDIT: POsted halveway thru
Don't get what you're refering to, but the part of my post you quoted was in relation to the 500+ sub-forums of the GOG games being almost exclusively used as our community support knowlegde base or FAQ.

Would you like to elaborate?
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HypersomniacLive: Don't get what you're refering to, but the part of my post you quoted was in relation to the 500+ sub-forums of the GOG games being almost exclusively used as our community support knowlegde base or FAQ.

Would you like to elaborate?
methinks GoG's whole forum needs an upgrade. the current one works, but using it as a forum isn't really working. methinks that a forum based upgrade using the software I listed would work way better, and might even get people to use the 500+ subforums
I completely agree with the OP. All these give-away threads have pretty much stopped me posting here. Any thread i participate in just gets drowned out in all the spam, so why bother discuss anything other than spam?

As an aside, a separate sub forum for these give away threads is a must. Also i wouldn't be at all surprised if some of the 'craze' in give away threads is not driven by GoG competitors in the DD space. One way to reduce people buying games from GoG is have LOTS of them being given away from free almost constantly.

They need to die imho, or at least be removed from the main forum.
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ThorChild: I completely agree with the OP. All these give-away threads have pretty much stopped me posting here. Any thread i participate in just gets drowned out in all the spam, so why bother discuss anything other than spam?

As an aside, a separate sub forum for these give away threads is a must. Also i wouldn't be at all surprised if some of the 'craze' in give away threads is not driven by GoG competitors in the DD space. One way to reduce people buying games from GoG is have LOTS of them being given away from free almost constantly.

They need to die imho, or at least be removed from the main forum.
Breathe in, breathe out... repeat.

There are no GOG competitors setting up giveaways to distract GOG's purpose. They really aren't going to do that.
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JudasIscariot: I support this as I think it's the best solution and doesn't take away anything from anyone as all the threads can still be viewed.
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Ghorpm: The problem was articulated and the solution was found - a script which can hide giveaways.
Sadly, some people avoid using "giveaway" or any blockable pattern at all in the thread title on purpose.

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xyem: If some people regard them as spam.. do they actually report it as spam to back up their classification?
I regard most of them as trash posts. "Spam" is a technical term, and one of the criteria is "automated". Giveaway posts are obviously done by hand.

As for the report - I do report nonspam posts, but only if I suspect GOG might be uninterested in keeping a particular post hosted on the forum - hate speech, etc. I do not waste mod time with direct complaints; now if multiple people are sufficiently offended that they report a post as spam, maybe mod action is really needed. Since GOG takes no action against giveaways, I do not report them. I suspect most of my spam reports come from accidentally downrepping a post instead of uprepping and hurrying to correct the mistake; my fingers do not work well even on a 10.1" inch screen.

edit (thought to add this since the thread has got personal):
I like ne_zavarj's threads because he's working directly with the devs to obtain free keys for unknown and (likely) underrated games. I do not understand the purpose of your (xyem) threads, since you are simply giving away free money to buy unspecified GOG games (that already have all the publicity as far as the GOG forums are concerned), but I do not dislike them. Plus they are marked "giveaway". People who deal in bootleg codes, however, are welcome to go live in a non-fatal fire.
Post edited July 07, 2013 by Starmaker
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wpegg: Breathe in, breathe out... repeat.

There are no GOG competitors setting up giveaways to distract GOG's purpose. They really aren't going to do that.
Maybe GOG could try this to destroy its competition.

They can start with small ones like GG and GMG and eventually move to Steam.
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Starmaker: I regard most of them as trash posts. "Spam" is a technical term, and one of the criteria is "automated". Giveaway posts are obviously done by hand.
Automation isn't required.. Spam is typically defined as being unsolicited commercial messages. However, most of the time they do automate. I did catch one in here that wasn't actually a bought, but a person in Taiwan manually posting messages here.

So, technically the forum giveaways aren't spam, they are however arguably an example of flooding.
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Ghorpm: The problem was articulated and the solution was found - a script which can hide giveaways.
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Starmaker: Sadly, some people avoid using "giveaway" or any blockable pattern at all in the thread title on purpose.
Which I will start doing. To my regret, because I also liked to put 'giveaway' in the title. But given that it automatically classifies my threads as spam and blocks them out, then fuck that.