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I can't believe there are actually people out there who blame GOG for their own bank's fees.

Why is this even a debate?

GOG never charged their customers these fees and gains nothing from them. This is entirely the bank's fault. If you're upset about it, contact your bank. This is excruciatingly simple stuff folks.
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pds41: But what's the other option? GoG has no control over US (or indeed any other) banks.
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BlueMooner: I'm not blaming GOG for anything here. Like I said, the OP mistakenly blamed GOG for his own bank's charges. All I was saying was that it's understandable how OP was confused about the nationality of the site. After all, if you don't visit the forum (as OP with 2 rep apparently never did), then how would anybody know this WAS an international site? Yes, just because the site is in English and has USD doesn't mean it is, for a fact, American, but OTOH, why wouldn't one think that?
For me, it was the spelling of "CD Projekt" - the K instead of a C is a giveaway that it's Mainland European - in a similar way to the Americans using Z instead of S in a lot of words.
Necro ftw, serious trollage raising this thread from the dead >.<
Luckly my prepaid card doesn't have a Foreign Transaction Fee, but anyway, to avoid complaints, GOG should put a note in the main page under that info banner for new users (4 reasons why GOG is good, or something like that).
The first thing I do before buying something online is to try to find information about the person/website before I decide I want to do business with them. One of the things I look for is the place of origin.

Edit: I don't just the search the site in question itself. Google (and/or DDG) is your friend.

Edit again: Atrocious grammar (not to say it is good now). Posted before I had my first cup of coffee :D
Post edited December 30, 2013 by 1322
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pds41: For me, it was the spelling of "CD Projekt" - the K instead of a C is a giveaway that it's Mainland European - in a similar way to the Americans using Z instead of S in a lot of words.
Whilst some might complain of allowing a person's spelling to colour one's view of their likely nationality, I can't criticise such behaviour.
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Weclock: There's no need to snowball my posts
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SpaceManThe: What does that mean?
It means, whoever revived this thread should explain.
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Weclock: It means, whoever revived this thread should explain.
You revived this thread! It had been peacefully dead for four days and you come and necro it! You should be ashamed of yourself.
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BlueMooner: OP was incorrectly mad at GOG instead of his carrier
Sorry but he wasn't incorrectly mad at GOG. GOG is absolutely at fault too.
Yes, my CC charges me fees for foreign transactions. That's fine because I usually know when I enter into a foreign transaction.
And, because my CC charges me foreign transaction fees, I also have several other ways that I can pay for items when purchasing them from international vendors. BUT I WOULD NEED TO KNOW ABOUT GOG NOT BEING A US VENDOR BEFORE DOING SO. BUT THESE SCAMMERS DON'T PUT UP A WARNING, POST ALL PRICES IN USD AND MAKE THE WHOLE SITE LOOK LIKE IT IS A US OUTFIT.

What absolutely PISSES me off is GOG scumbag approach to pretend as if they are a US website (e.g. USD prices) when they are in fact processing all their CC charges through some shady tax haven to avoid WHT.
It's not as if it is a surprise to GOG that most CC companies charge foreign transaction fees. (BTW most European banks do this too)

If GOG weren't a bunch of shady scammers they could put up a warning depending on a couple of conditions:
1. Customer IP - if you are in the US, you probably get hit with a foreign transaction fee on your CC. Same probably goes for the UK.
2. CC number - yes you can tell in which country and by which bank the card was issued, so you could even provide very specific warnings (though this would be technically more complex)
Post edited January 13, 2014 by coolVariable
Hah, you came back!

How are GOG scammers? That implies that they somehow benefit from the foreign transaction fee.

The prices are in USD because it's the default currency for international trade and therefore a good choice if you're going to have the same price worldwide. Taking that into account, I don't see anything that makes this look more like a US outfit than a UK outfit or anything else.

Anyway, stick around please because you brighten my day.
Post edited January 13, 2014 by SirPrimalform
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BlueMooner: OP was incorrectly mad at GOG instead of his carrier
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coolVariable: Sorry but he wasn't incorrectly mad at GOG. GOG is absolutely at fault too.
Yes, my CC charges me fees for foreign transactions. That's fine because I usually know when I enter into a foreign transaction.
And, because my CC charges me foreign transaction fees, I also have several other ways that I can pay for items when purchasing them from international vendors. BUT I WOULD NEED TO KNOW ABOUT GOG NOT BEING A US VENDOR BEFORE DOING SO. BUT THESE SCAMMERS DON'T PUT UP A WARNING, POST ALL PRICES IN USD AND MAKE THE WHOLE SITE LOOK LIKE IT IS A US OUTFIT.

What absolutely PISSES me off is GOG scumbag approach to pretend as if they are a US website (e.g. USD prices) when they are in fact processing all their CC charges through some shady tax haven to avoid WHT.
It's not as if it is a surprise to GOG that most CC companies charge foreign transaction fees. (BTW most European banks do this too)

If GOG weren't a bunch of shady scammers they could put up a warning depending on a couple of conditions:
1. Customer IP - if you are in the US, you probably get hit with a foreign transaction fee on your CC. Same probably goes for the UK.
2. CC number - yes you can tell in which country and by which bank the card was issued, so you could even provide very specific warnings (though this would be technically more complex)
Umm, as far as I've ever been aware for someone to be a "scammer" they would either need to:

-Bait and switch (In my experience they have never once provided a product that was less than advertised)
-Not provide a product at all (ie fraud, again not something they've ever done in my experience)
-Charged more money than advertised (foreign fees are not pocketed or collected by them, that'd be the bank)
-Use of a person's credit card in an unauthorized means
-a Variety of fraudulent tactics most of which can't be applied to this situation. (ex Ponzi schemes or con artistry)
-Anything similar that I am not currently thinking of (injured my back and thus may forget some forms of scamming)

I am not trying to dismiss you being angry for whatever reason you choose to be angry over, however calling them 'scammers' seems a little inaccurate at best, and defamation/libel/traducement at worst. That's really all I have to say about the matter. :)
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SirPrimalform: Hah, you came back!

How are GOG scammers? That implies that they somehow benefit from the foreign transaction fee.

The prices are in USD because it's the default currency for international trade and therefore a good choice if you're going to have the same price worldwide. Taking that into account, I don't see anything that makes this look more like a US outfit than a UK outfit or anything else.

Anyway, stick around please because you brighten my day.
Awe damn, I knew I forgot to put something into my reply, thank you for putting this. :)
Post edited January 13, 2014 by Theta_Sigma
I love antediluvian necros. I get all warm and fuzzy inside!

The only people you should be fussing at are your bank. They're the ones who determine if a foreign transaction fee is used and how much it is. They're also the ones who get that money. If you don't like the fees, get a different bank or complain to your current one. Credit unions and smaller local/regional banks tend to be better about these sorts of fees than the goliath banks.
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bevinator: I love antediluvian necros. I get all warm and fuzzy inside!

The only people you should be fussing at are your bank. They're the ones who determine if a foreign transaction fee is used and how much it is. They're also the ones who get that money. If you don't like the fees, get a different bank or complain to your current one. Credit unions and smaller local/regional banks tend to be better about these sorts of fees than the goliath banks.
Unfortunately, those same credit unions and local banks often have restrictive policies about foreign "card not present" transactions. There have been plenty of grief stories about purchases denied because the bank declined the foreign transaction. You need to use a card issued by a carrier that allows foreign CNP transactions with a Cyprus company operating through a UK bank.

"Visa. Everywhere you want to be."
Certain restrictions, limitations, and exclusions apply.
Post edited January 13, 2014 by cjrgreen
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coolVariable: What absolutely PISSES me off is GOG scumbag approach to pretend as if they are a US website (e.g. USD prices) when they are in fact processing all their CC charges through some shady tax haven to avoid WHT.
I have no idea what WHT is. White House Taxes? GOG is located in Poland, so they're not a US company trying to circumvent US tax law. I believe their bank is located in Cyprus. There are no tax havens here.

One could make the argument that they could be more visible about their location, or the location of their bank, but I also think one should bear in mind that when shopping online, you really have no idea where website is located. So if foreign fees are a concern a little digging may be in order


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bevinator: I love antediluvian necros.
What about antediluvian vampires? I'm reaching the end of VTM Bloodlines where a powerful antediluvian vampire may be preparing to end everything... even six year old threads. I'm trying to stop people from necro'ing it.


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SirPrimalform: You revived this thread! It had been peacefully dead for four days and you come and necro it! You should be ashamed of yourself.
Any suggestions on how we can kill this thread for good? Maybe kill it with fire?
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coolVariable: What absolutely PISSES me off is GOG scumbag approach to pretend as if they are a US website (e.g. USD prices) when they are in fact processing all their CC charges through some shady tax haven to avoid WHT.
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BlueMooner: I have no idea what WHT is. White House Taxes? GOG is located in Poland, so they're not a US company trying to circumvent US tax law. I believe their bank is located in Cyprus. There are no tax havens here.

One could make the argument that they could be more visible about their location, or the location of their bank, but I also think one should bear in mind that when shopping online, you really have no idea where website is located. So if foreign fees are a concern a little digging may be in order

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bevinator: I love antediluvian necros.
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BlueMooner: What about antediluvian vampires? I'm reaching the end of VTM Bloodlines where a powerful antediluvian vampire may be preparing to end everything... even six year old threads. I'm trying to stop people from necro'ing it.

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SirPrimalform: You revived this thread! It had been peacefully dead for four days and you come and necro it! You should be ashamed of yourself.
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BlueMooner: Any suggestions on how we can kill this thread for good? Maybe kill it with fire?
too late, already laid some eggs :(