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langurmonkey: It is common that such people have shit parents.
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keeveek: And yet, most of the people who have shit parents are not serial killers (thank goodness ;-))
if that was the case the world population would be less than seven figures.
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lukaszthegreat: if that was the case the world population would be less than seven figures.
Which clearly shows having shitty childhood is not an excuse to anything, as media usually try to exploit. :P
Post edited June 07, 2013 by keeveek
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tfishell: Sick bastard that had a terrible childhood. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ramirez#Early_life
Yeah, that makes it all right...
I don't care what his childhood was like, the world is better off without him. OP isn't hidden anymore(atleast for now).
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tfishell: Sick bastard that had a terrible childhood. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ramirez#Early_life
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Licurg: Yeah, that makes it all right...
no one here said that. you sound just media to which keeveek was referring.
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Zchinque: [sarcasm]Oh. I wasn't aware. Thanks for telling me! That changes everything![/sarcasm]

His death, nor any anguish, pain, or torture he has suffered, will somehow bring back those he killed or serve as penance for his actions.
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Licurg: It won't bring them back, but their families will find comfort in the fact that the pig squealed a lot before he died. I have no doubt that you live somewhere where violent crime is rare, but some of us don't, so stop pretending you understand or even give a shit, because I know you don't.
I don't think the families will ever find comfort. Everyday they will miss their loved ones while the squealing of the murderer fades away. And if the death or torture of someone makes you feel comfortable no matter how much of a piece of shit, that someone is, then what does that say about you? Good people don't find comfort with torture and death. Revenge, is a dark evil path. A way for the forces of darkness to recruit people into their army. Because in order to want to kill or torture someone or want to see someone tortured or killed, you will have to surrender yourself first to the dark side. I hope one day you understand this. The bible tries to explain this to people too.
Post edited June 07, 2013 by langurmonkey
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wizardtypething: What does suffering accomplish if it's memory and experience is obliterated upon death?

Removing dangerous elements from society seems to be entirely more useful than some metaphysical concept of 'justice'.
This.
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langurmonkey: . Because in order to want to kill or torture someone or want to see someone tortured or killed, you will have to surrender yourself first to the dark side. I hope one day you understand this.
It means we all are a descendants of dark forces :P Public executions were more popular than sunday masses back in the day :P
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wizardtypething: What does suffering accomplish if it's memory and experience is obliterated upon death?

Removing dangerous elements from society seems to be entirely more useful than some metaphysical concept of 'justice'.
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Nirth: This.
And think of what kind of message, an eye for an eye sends to everyone in this world? There has been a crime done to you and now you are James Bond, you have the license to kill. It is no wonder, people are killing each other because "Dude, didn't pay me back the money he owed me" etc.
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langurmonkey: . Because in order to want to kill or torture someone or want to see someone tortured or killed, you will have to surrender yourself first to the dark side. I hope one day you understand this.
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keeveek: It means we all are a descendants of dark forces :P Public executions were more popular than sunday masses back in the day :P
I know that back in the today, people were very much full of darkness. Consumed with their idea of "justice', revenge, honor, glory etc.
Post edited June 07, 2013 by langurmonkey
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Licurg: It won't bring them back, but their families will find comfort in the fact that the pig squealed a lot before he died. I have no doubt that you live somewhere where violent crime is rare, but some of us don't, so stop pretending you understand or even give a shit, because I know you don't.
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langurmonkey: I don't think the families will ever find comfort. Everyday they will miss their loved ones while the squealing of the murderer fades away. And if the death or torture of someone makes you feel comfortable no matter how much of a piece of shit, that someone is, then what does that say about you? Good people don't find comfort with torture and death. Revenge, is a dark evil path. A way for the forces of darkness to recruit people into their army. Because in order to want to kill or torture someone or want to see someone tortured or killed, you will have to surrender yourself first to the dark side. I hope one day you understand this. The bible tries to explain this to people too.
You have to stop copying your world view from Yoda, and try thinking with your own brain, or even better, try thinking one of that retard's victim's might've been your sister, your mother, your wife, your daughter...
I hate hateful threads. And I hate hating it. And I hate hating hati.....

Because as you can see , you can keep on as long as you want, it just leads nowhere.
Just let go these kind of things please.
Post edited June 07, 2013 by Potzato
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Licurg: That's the problem - it's painless(or at least, that's what they say). In Vlad Tepes' time, someone like this filth would've been impaled in such a way as to avoid the internal organs, so the scum would die slowly over the course of hours or, as some scholars write, up to 2 days. That's what this vermin would've deserved, that's what he would've got in a normal society.
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wizardtypething: What does suffering accomplish if it's memory and experience is obliterated upon death?

Removing dangerous elements from society seems to be entirely more useful than some metaphysical concept of 'justice'.
Those people are not talking about justice, they are talking about revenge. Justice would be removing hm from society as you brought up, not torturing him.
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Immoli: Those people are not talking about justice, they are talking about revenge. Justice would be removing hm from society as you brought up, not torturing him.
You mean killing him?

Because other prisonfolks are a society too. There are prison guards as well.

You don't remove somebody from the society by putting him in prison, you are just relocating him for a certain amount of time.
Post edited June 07, 2013 by keeveek
I'm not sure what to think of either the death of this person or the comments of majority in these thread. I only can say that killing someone for his crimes is not justice but revenge.
And I have to think of a quote:
"Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them?"
I guess some of you know it...
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Vestin: our intellectual superiority over the ability to tie our own shoes...
The cleverness is not in knowing how to tie shoes, it lies in inventing Velcro ! :D

Edit : ...or maybe I didn't really catch what you meant.
Edit2 : Oh !
Post edited June 07, 2013 by Potzato