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Posted June 07, 2013
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Licurg: It won't bring them back, but their families will find comfort in the fact that the pig squealed a lot before he died. I have no doubt that you live somewhere where violent crime is rare, but some of us don't, so stop pretending you understand or even give a shit, because I know you don't.
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lukaszthegreat: have you ever thought that there might be a correlation?
between lack of violent crime and lack of happiness when someone dies?
Some people are born filthy vermin, regardless of circumstances. It has nothing to do with the "lack of happiness when someone dies".
Posted June 07, 2013
There is even a Polish joke about Stalin's death :P I don't know if it's translatable, but polish fellas witll understand

Na co umarł Stalin?
Na szczęście (szczescie)

;-D
Posted June 07, 2013
lukaszthegreat is right.

I so did not want to get into something like this today. I'm going to get out of this thread and stay out, let the fighting continue. If some group of assholes want to keep derepping for giving my opinion fine, I just jumped on someone for expreesing themselves so I guess I deserve it. What I would appreciate is when your done getting your jollies could you let it rest here and not follow me around hitting me for everything I post just because you think I was a dick this time? Thank you. :D
Posted June 07, 2013
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lukaszthegreat: Anyone can be murderer anyone can become "monster" given right circumstances. If only one thing in his life was different he could have been now driving kids back from school.
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Neobr10: I disagree. There are many people that live a fucked up life under horrible circumstances that don't go out raping girls and murdering people just for the pleasure of doing so.
there are also many people who don't have fucked up life and do horrible things.

studies showed that its quite easy for people to stop being ethical. in certain circumstances they will lose any moral responsibility completely.
some cases are more likely than others.
doesn't change the fact that every 'monster' is a human being.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
I don't think you used that phrase correctly.
Posted June 07, 2013
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tinyE: Do you think we should celebrate the man for that? Should we be saddened by his passing?
Is your view that black and white? We must either be jubilant that "the monster" is dead, or be saddened that he has passed?
Incidentally I am very anti-capital punishment so don't lump me in with those who are in favor of it.
Never made any assumptions about where you stand on capital punishment.
Posted June 07, 2013
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tinyE: snip
just FYI. ive not downrepped you
(i don't think i've done that to anyone except spam)
Posted June 07, 2013
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lukaszthegreat: doesn't change the fact that every 'monster' is a human being.
Why? If one's definition of being different than animals means being ethical and having remorse, than someone with lack of them is not human.

Just because someone walks on two legs doesn't make him human.
Posted June 07, 2013
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keeveek: I always wait until some folks on this forum jump into a thread to express their moral superiority to others.
Well, friend, the wait is over. What happens now ?
Some "superiority" this is, BTW... NOT applauding the death of someone. Go us. Perhaps soon we shall express our intellectual superiority over the ability to tie our own shoes...

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Neobr10: Two wrongs don't make a right.
Precisely: bad things happening to bad people don't stop being bad things.
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I'm not saying anyone should celebrate, false dichotomy lovers. I'm merely scared of how violent and cruel your thoughts are. All it takes is to convince you that someone is "baaaaaad" and suddenly you are willing to strip him from any sort of human dignity, doesn't it ? He's no longer "human", he no longer deserves to live, he no longer deserves no to suffer... This can be a dangerous road to follow. If you ever fail in society's eyes enough - you're screwed. If someone manipulates society into thinking that an innocent man is "no longer human" - he's screwed. If you keep fantasizing about suffering being "deservedly" inflicted on others... you might, just might, one day become the very monsters you fight.
Post edited June 07, 2013 by Vestin
Posted June 07, 2013
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fortune_p_dawg: May he rest in shit.
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tinyE: I'm not in favor of capital punishment and the fact that he spent thirty years on death row before finally succumbing to what is being initially called "natural causes" proves the point that it really doesn't accomplish anything other to make the sociopath (at least in his case) more famous.
Murder is wrong even if that means murdering(lethal injection) a murderer. By not killing him, the state of California wasn't stooping down to his level. And in my opinion, dying of natural causes makes you less famous. It's not the same as going out by getting surrounded by 1000 cops and getting shot like 100 times. Dying of natural causes is so average. Did King Leonidas die of natural causes? Did Harald Hardrada die of natural causes? Hitler?
Post edited June 07, 2013 by langurmonkey
Posted June 07, 2013
Sick bastard that had a terrible childhood. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ramirez#Early_life
Posted June 07, 2013
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lukaszthegreat: doesn't change the fact that every 'monster' is a human being.
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keeveek: Why? If one's definition of being different than animals means being ethical and having remorse, than someone with lack of them is not human.

Just because someone walks on two legs doesn't make him human.
Calling them not human being gives the idea that they originate from somewhere else. That they were never part of human society and "species".

I don't like this line of thinking. A 'monster' hides in every person. every human can become 'not human' under certain circumstances.

If his cousin didn't come back from Vietnam. would that guy do everything he did? would he be human being then?
Posted June 07, 2013
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lukaszthegreat: Calling them not human being gives the idea that they originate from somewhere else. That they were never part of human society and "species".
Just because you are a part of something, it doesn't mean you stay a part of it for eternity.

You legally stop being a human being after you die, you can also stop being a human being after you do something so unthinkable, so cruel, so ruthless, the humanity would definitely be better without you.

Just like you make some offence and you get kicked from your local chess club, you can be "kicked out" from humanity for your actions in my book.

It doesn't mean you can't go back. But he clearly didn't even want to come back.

There is a serial killer-pedophile just about to come out of prison in Poland. He said numerous times, he will kill another kid as soon as he goes out. He's not a human in my book, doesn't deserve a humanitarian treatement as well. Maybe it makes me not human as well.

What I know for sure, I won't be patronizing here and tell others they shouldn't feel good about somebody else's passing. Just because somebody breaths, it doesn't make him just as worthy of anything as others. I wouldn't dare to tell the families of the victims to not being joyful about his death.

The world is definitely a better place without him in my eyes.
Post edited June 07, 2013 by keeveek
Posted June 07, 2013
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tfishell: Sick bastard that had a terrible childhood. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ramirez#Early_life
It is common that such people have shit parents.
Posted June 07, 2013
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DaCostaBR: I'm also not in favor of capital punishment, but I don't like the roundabout way they do it. Supposedly it's painless, some people say that it actually isn't and the cocktail of drugs just makes it impossible for them to express pain. So I wish they just went the chinese route and put a bullet in the back of his head. It's direct and you know with absolute certainty that it does hurt, but 0.1 seconds later it will stop hurting. I guess Im just blunt like that.
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jamyskis: Actually, I've heard that a shot to the head doesn't hurt much. At worst, you actually only feel superficial pain on the surface of your head. Depending on where in the brain the bullet goes, you would either die instantly or actually not be aware of what just happened. EIther it hits the prefrontal cortex, which would basically prevent you from understanding what just happen and inhibit your ability to process pain as unpleasant, it would hit the posterior parietal cortex, which makes you unable to feel pain anyway, or your temporal lobe, which would force you to forget what just happened.
Exactly. I feel like they just overthink the whole process. If I had to guess I'd say it's more for the benefit of the society than the inmate, it lets people feel more civilized when deep down the result is really the same, they are still killing a man.

On topic: I don't like the idea of celebrating anyone's death. If you feel it was justified, fine, but afterwards don't derive happiness from something like this, do the mature thing and just move on.
Posted June 07, 2013
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langurmonkey: It is common that such people have shit parents.
And yet, most of the people who have shit parents are not serial killers (thank goodness ;-))
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