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Posted June 08, 2013
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morciu: There are these legends that this guy was some sort of medieval batman defending wronged and keeping the land crime free when he was actually just a guy who enjoyed shoving stakes up Turk asses.
Yeah, it's funny how much this thing depends on a country. Vlad Tepes is depicted in Polish classrooms as twisted evil son of a bitch with real love for cruelty. Not even a word suggesting he was fighting crime. He impaled people because he enjoyed it. Also, he was a vampire, of course ;P

This is the picture painted in polish schools.
Post edited June 08, 2013 by keeveek
Posted June 08, 2013
My understanding of Vlad was that he seized the throne, and the people weren't happy with him for that. They kept rising up against him and as soon as he arrived with his army and quashed one uprising, there'd be another one on the other side of his kingdom. So, he had to race over to deal with that, when a third would pop up.

I read that he spent something like 7 years moving around the kingdom nonstop, dealing with all the petty rebellions, never being able to just kick back in his castle and enjoy his position. As a result, he became so frustrated at all these peasants just not getting the fact that he was king now, and so irritated at having to deal with a million flea bites, that he became more and more incensed, and started dishing out harsher and harsher punishments. In that sense, I can understand his reaction.
Posted June 08, 2013
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Vestin: Quite on the contrary: we are who we are not ;P.
You know it's funny that in the cold light of day I get tongue tied and my head starts spinning just by reading the first line of that journal. If I revisit it this evening after about five pints it will all make perfect sense!
Post edited June 08, 2013 by Egotomb
Posted June 08, 2013
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BlueMooner: I read that he spent something like 7 years moving around the kingdom nonstop, dealing with all the petty rebellions, never being able to just kick back in his castle and enjoy his position.
Sounds like my every Crusader Kings 2 playthrough ever :P
Posted June 08, 2013
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morciu: snip
Vlad Tepes was a great ruler - he thought the largest empire of the time and won, very few rulers in history can say that. As for the "psycho" part - He lived in the 15 century for fuck's sake, any ruler that wasn't cruel was dead 5 minutes after he got his throne.
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morciu: There are these legends that this guy was some sort of medieval batman defending wronged and keeping the land crime free when he was actually just a guy who enjoyed shoving stakes up Turk asses.
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keeveek: Yeah, it's funny how much this thing depends on a country. Vlad Tepes is depicted in Polish classrooms as twisted evil son of a bitch with real love for cruelty. Not even a word suggesting he was fighting crime. He impaled people because he enjoyed it. Also, he was a vampire, of course ;P

This is the picture painted in polish schools.
Maybe if you had some rulers like Vlad, your country wouldn't disappear off the map every time someone in Bavaria takes a fart...
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BlueMooner: My understanding of Vlad was that he seized the throne, and the people weren't happy with him for that. They kept rising up against him and as soon as he arrived with his army and quashed one uprising, there'd be another one on the other side of his kingdom. So, he had to race over to deal with that, when a third would pop up.

I read that he spent something like 7 years moving around the kingdom nonstop, dealing with all the petty rebellions, never being able to just kick back in his castle and enjoy his position. As a result, he became so frustrated at all these peasants just not getting the fact that he was king now, and so irritated at having to deal with a million flea bites, that he became more and more incensed, and started dishing out harsher and harsher punishments. In that sense, I can understand his reaction.
I don't recall him having any particular problem with rebellions. He's best known for fighting the Ottoman Empire :


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_Impaler#War_with_the_Ottomans
Post edited June 08, 2013 by Licurg
Posted June 08, 2013
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Licurg: Maybe if you had some rulers like Vlad, your country wouldn't disappear off the map every time someone in Bavaria takes a fart...
Dude, your country is youunger than most of our universities and palaces.
Posted June 08, 2013
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Licurg: Maybe if you had some rulers like Vlad, your country wouldn't disappear off the map every time someone in Bavaria takes a fart...
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keeveek: Dude, your country is youunger than most of our universities and palaces.
We formed a nation-state much later than most other countries in Europe, but we've been here for a long time, in multiple independent kingdoms(think Germany before their own unification).
Posted June 08, 2013
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Licurg: We formed a nation-state much later than most other countries in Europe, but we've been here for a long time, in multiple independent kingdoms(think Germany before their own unification).
So you should remember how we annihilated you in battle of Vienna in 1683 ;P
Posted June 08, 2013
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Licurg: We formed a nation-state much later than most other countries in Europe, but we've been here for a long time, in multiple independent kingdoms(think Germany before their own unification).
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keeveek: So you should remember how we annihilated you in battle of Vienna in 1683 ;P
We didn't fight there dude. We were under occupation by the Ottomans, but we didn't actually fight in any battle. You can check the battle in Wikipedia, under "Belligerents", it says "Not Engaged".
Posted June 08, 2013
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Licurg: We didn't fight there dude. We were under occupation by the Ottomans, but we didn't actually fight in any battle. You can check the battle in Wikipedia, under "Belligerents", it says "Not Engaged".
Oh, I don't really recognise all of the subgroups. Sorry.
Posted June 08, 2013
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Licurg: We didn't fight there dude. We were under occupation by the Ottomans, but we didn't actually fight in any battle. You can check the battle in Wikipedia, under "Belligerents", it says "Not Engaged".
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keeveek: Oh, I don't really recognise all of the subgroups. Sorry.
-Principality of Moldova
-Principality of Wallachia
-Principality of Transilvania


Those were the 3 Romanian kingdoms of the time. We were paying the Ottomans tribute so as not to get invaded, and were their allies on paper.
Posted June 08, 2013
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keeveek: Oh, I don't really recognise all of the subgroups. Sorry.
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Licurg: -Principality of Moldova
-Principality of Wallachia
-Principality of Transilvania

Those were the 3 Romanian kingdoms of the time. We were paying the Ottomans tribute so as not to get invaded, and were their allies on paper.
Yeah, we're on the Christian (orthodox) block. No Muslims :D
But really, open a new thread or continue this per PMs...let this thread die already!
Posted June 08, 2013
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Licurg: -Principality of Moldova
-Principality of Wallachia
-Principality of Transilvania

Those were the 3 Romanian kingdoms of the time. We were paying the Ottomans tribute so as not to get invaded, and were their allies on paper.
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Reever: Yeah, we're on the Christian (orthodox) block. No Muslims :D
But really, open a new thread or continue this per PMs...let this thread die already!
That's so evil and twisted of you, wishing the death of a thread :P
Posted June 08, 2013
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Reever: But really, open a new thread or continue this per PMs...let this thread die already!
Will you be happy if this thread died? How can you be happy about something's passing? You're cruel and evil!
Posted June 08, 2013
Let's stick a big wooden stake up this thread's butt avoiding all the vital organs and letting it die slowly.
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