Oh I totally agree with that.

I honestly don't like Phil Fish that much, but the immature and insane reaction from gamers against him does scare me a lot. Reading the comments section on polytron's site about Fez 2's cancellation made me lose that little bit of fate i still had on the gaming community.

Yes, Phil Fish acted like an asshole many times and doesn't really know how to deal with criticism, but he doesn't deserve as much hate as he gets. He really doesn't. He's just a human being that made some mistakes, just like everyone else.

What annoys me the most about this is how whiny and immature many gamers are. I mean, yes, Phil Fish did deserve some of the criticism, but the hostility against him is absurd. For fuck's sake, Treyarch's developers are receiving death threats every day just because they tweaked some of the guns in the last patch. This is insane.

How do you even come to the conclusion that this is anything more than obvious attention whoring?

He's not a child, he knows what ticks some people off and he knows what makes some people go "aww, he doesn't deserve this".

It's like teasing people. It happens to all these people in the industry, but since they just ignore it, everyone agrees and says "yeah, just ignore them".

Fish on the other hand falls for it, which just encourages those doing it to continue it, and since his reactions are comprised of all these temper tantrums people just think: "screw him, then".

I just this moment finished watching it. Guy just seems to be really passionate to me, maybe a little too much. I thought he was going to murder some of the people playing his game at the PAX bit. I would have been interested if the documentary went more into the people around the developers to see what they had to say.

I think I sort of understand him a bit more now. I still don't necessarily like the guy, but I get it. I just think as people have said he needs to stop paying attention to twitter/comments.

I believe the majority of the gaming population are high school, or college age. This is how they act. The internet just makes it seem like they are devolving, but they are just staying the same. They grow out of it after a while though.

And don't I just feel like a hypocritical ass, posting this in the same thread that I just had to post the Fish Heads song.

I don't see it as an age issue so much as the fact that Twitter really tends to lend itself to snap reactions more than almost any other form of conversation. It's such a limited form of conversation that there's no "lag time" for people's minds to weed out bad/inappropriate responses. In other words, it's too fast for a rational discussion on the merits of "good' and "bad" and turns most users into hyperemotional douches. Believe me, I've seen intelligent "realspace" people turn into complete morons on Twitter.

I read something that claimed the average age of gamers was now in the 30s range, which seems reasonable.

Ah, he's Canadian. That means, that unlike the US mental health system, he could actually get some worthwhile help.

I just hope he realizes himself before he has a violent outburst towards himself or others.

I've heard some people say that he's emblematic of the problems dogging the indie game scene today, due to his rather infamous attitude. IIRC, he had a run-in with Anna Anthropy, which prompted the latter to pen a scathing critique over the elitism and arrogance that permeated IGF that year.

He's often attributed as being one of the more public faces of indie gaming since he was one of the front-and-centre stars of "Indie Game: The Movie", which was supposed to be a documentary about the indie game scene.

Don't twist my arguments. I didn't say i pitty him or that he is not guilty for all the hate he got. I said that i don't like him, but he certainly doesn't deserve as much hate as he gets. It's not like he was responsible for the massacre of jews during WW2, you know. He just made some rather stupid comments that made people hate him.

It might be attention whoring, i didn't say it wasn't. However, i do believe that he might be exhausted from all the hostility targeted at him, especially after looking at his Twitter account (before he locked it). It's not easy to identify human emotions. It's impossible to know for sure if he's just trying to get some attention or if he's genuinely tired from all the hate. Don't make it look like a trivial matter, it isn't.

So, uh...can we get back to better topics? I'm tired of Phil Fish and his Tower Toppler clones, k? :3

http://i.imgur.com/la84I7s.jpg

Apparently he has given up on games.

That's what I thought when I read the thread title.

Phil Fish is a twat and Marcus was absolutely correct in what he said. After all, Fish has no problem using the media to push HIS game and to get HIS point across, but when the media comes to him asking him for a comment about Microsoft, he is rude, abusive and nasty.

The guy is a complete wanker but, no, unfortunately, I doubt he's gone. He's just having his usual temper tantrum so he can get some "attention" and then he'll be back pushing Fez 2 and trying to use the same media outlets he was just a fucking wanker to.

Hate the guy. He epitomizes everything wrong with the gaming industry and I wouldn't touch any game he made with a barge pole. Yep, that's Fish. One of the most disgusting people in the gaming industry and a pretty nasty person overall.

I just figure there are other indie gamers that make good games and seem to be decent people, so why should I hand over my hard-earned money to a complete wanker.