Many apologies - very busy at work and its my mums birthday today as well, so round to see her straight after- I promise to have an analysis for you tonight , before midnight GMT...!

Yeah, but since we're at mislynch (need to stop trying to put another y in there), we could easily vote nolynch, lose one person and expose his claim. Although personally, I'd say nolynch should be a last resort after we've debated through our other options.

Does it HAVE to be at dawn? I would prefer a nice comfortable afternoon duel just after tea-time. Then I'll be all yours. Should I bring my own gun or will you provide a matching set of duel pistols?

You know what - i hadn't thought of that! That could be an option...

Okidoki - as promised, an analysis of Twisters bandwagon.

Hard facts so far....

N0x0ss Bandwagon

1 - Sirprimalform
2 - CSPVG
3 - Robbeasy
4 - TwisterBE - known Town
5 - P1na --unknown....but in all likelihood Town (unless Mafia Nk their own, or were got by some sort of Serial Killer / Vigilante / god knows what else)
6 - Quadralien -known Town
7 - Lifthrasil

Twister Bandwagon

1 - Lifthrasil
2 - Twilightbard
3 - JoeSapphire
4 - Sirprimalform
5 - Jmich
6 - CSPVG

Hard facts - Lifthrasil, CSPVG, Sirprimalform been on both bandwagons.

Onto analysis then...

Lifthrasil, after hammering last time , is first on this time (post 480) - justification is Twisters vote on him and seeming fixation.

I followed Lifthrasil very next post - at that time I felt Twisters reason for voting in Day1 for N0x0ss was extremely thin, and he had repeated himself in Day2. This vote was removed in post 509, I was going away for 4 days without internet access and didnt want a vote on anyone should new info have come up while i was gone. But here's the rub - my vote was NOT counted in the official tot up by Vitek in post 498 anyway. I've just noticed this - I have absolutely no idea why my vote was removed, unless it was a mistake by Vitek. Although he even says in 531 he made a mistake in the previous votecount, and has corrected it! Wha?? I can only think my vote didnt count anyway - feck knows why..

So we move onto Twisters edit post. Interesting dynamic here - loads of people jumped on it.
First on was Flubbucket in post 581.
Twilight almost straight after in post 583.
Sirprimalform also jumps on in 587.
After a few posts of discussion, Joe clambers on the bandwagon in post 599.
Sirprimalform then jumps off in post 602, to prevent a speedlynch.
Flubb also jumps off in post 613, and jumps straight onto Quadralien.
Sirprimalform jumps back on in post 616.
Jmich is next to last on in post 640, citing interest in avoiding no-lynch.
Hammerer is CSPVG - post 642. Also cites no-lynch as reason, but also backs it up with other reasons.

So - speculations...

Interesting that two out the three who were on both wagons have claimed vanilla, and the third a 'sort of' vanilla

My vote being ignored / removed - no idea, are there any powers in the game that stop someone voting next day??

Twisters post edit - although a no-no, there were a few people in rather a hurry to pile on. Flubb almost straight away, then jumps off again a little later. Happy with a bandwagon start on an innocent, so keen to get off so can be seen to be clean when he flips town there?

exactly the sme could be said of Sirprimalform, although he does qualify his jump off with a stated desire not to see a speedlynch. Bangs his vote back on as soon as Flubbs is removed though - worried about the fish getting off the hook at all?

Twilight - cites the typo slip, and doesn't ever see the need to remove his vote. Consistent at least.

Joe - states time is short, and bangs his vote in quickly as well. Asks for a claim, so could be seen as a pressure vote. still , timings of both of above are a little suspect.

Jmich - late vote, as deadline is looming. Could be seen as an easy getout for Mafia. Especially as he didnt really have a proper reason in his post

Hammerer - CSPVG. Cited need to avoid no-lynch, but also backed up his hammer with other reasons. Hammerer always comes under suspicion, extra justification trying to avoid added suspicion, or the actions of someone not quite sure?


Personally, the biggest things that can be taken from the bandwagons are the ones who are on both - I would peg at least one of them as Mafia.
Which leaves me with Lifthrasil, CSPVG and Sirprimalform.

Current vote is on CSPVG as his claim seems weakest to me, but I'm going to wrap this up for now and look at the claims tomorrow and how they affect my thinking, taking into account what I've written here..

I don't seem to be able to check my PMs on my phone, but I don't recall any detail about how the town is strange. At this point I interpret it as a hint about the fact we all seem to be aliens.

Direct link to PMs. You should be able to check them by using the link.

Yes it had occured to me that by voting nolynch on this day then flubbucket turns into either another confirmed townsmember, or The Obvious Target. One townsmember down does leave us in a slightly more difficult position,and seeing as we'll likely lose someone who's already fairly trusted we won't have gained very much IF flub is town. Which I think is more likely. So... maybe yeah? Still worth considering.

Actually now, looking back over the other claims, I rather suspect that you ARE lying indeed. Every single one got (or at least claimed to have gotten) a role PM that was structured as "Name, Town Something". The confirmed roles also fall into this pattern. Vitek disclosed them as "Town Jack-of-all-trades, Town Phone Seeker and Town Lone Mason."
You are the only one deviating from the "Town Something" scheme that Vitek seems to be using and that everyone else stated as his role. So we have a definite break of the pattern where you are concerned. Maybe Vitek just did it to confuse us. But I rather suspect a slip up on your part and I am more and more convinced of your scumminess.



@Robb: Thanks for the analysis, even if it makes me look bad. I really made some bad decisions voting-wise. I know, however, that I am town and thus I can focus on the others that analysis makes me think about. Like SPF, maybe. He DID push very hard on N0x0ss... But CSPVG looks much more suspicious at the moment. However, I am not forgetting the possibility that you, after all, might still be mafia trying to look helpful.

No luck, the page loads but I can't get PMs from Vitek to show. Clicking his name does nothing for some reason.

I got it to work by clicking the PM button on Vitek's post. Seems obvious now...

It says both the town seems strange and the people peculiar, but it doesn't say how.

Listen to this.

Did your head explode?? If yes, no need to reply.

I have not the bandwidth, there's only 2G out here.

:-D I am still alive! Must be because I'm not from Mars. :-)