That is the second reason why I was hesitant to come forth with the claim. My feeling when I read post 492 was "What information does Quad have that should he flip town, we will be acting at once?" The whole of post 492 looked to me too much of a "I know you are scum, but can't reveal why I know it, yet", even though in post 551 QuadrAlien removed his vote on Flubbucket. I do think post 551 is hinting at him having an investigative role as well though, but I'm probably just paranoid.

Could it be that I'm reading too much into the posts? Of course. That is why I was hesitant yesterday, and that is why I want a discussion of it today. If I was certain of my deductions, I would have voted Flubbucket already, but if Flub is town, we will (probably) lose.

Twiglet - Favours Mass Claim
SirPrimalform - Favour Mass Claim
JMich - Non Commital Agree
Robbeasy - Non Commital Agree
Lifthrasil - Favours
Joe - Favours
CSPVG - Favours
Flubbucket - No Comment

I was just drawing up a list so that we would see where we were. We do have a majority agreements so let's see what Flubbucket says but looks like we're going on with mass claim.

Incidentally there are three members of the group who haven't expressed positivity towards the mass claim. How many mafiosi are we expecting?

I will say I have no issue with role claiming in this game and at this juncture.

1) Because I've bread crumbed like a fiend about my role.

2) My alignment will be mod confirmed on Day four.

We are still here. We have dreamed of this moment. We will do as the majority deems best.

Also interesting that its the hammerer saying this....you might not have found it helpful, but others could have. Answering for other people is never a good thing.

@Jmich - although the quoted posts don't seem to add up to a massive amount, I can see where you are coming from.

Take these two things together and I think its enough to do this...

vote CSPVG


And for the record - I will be doing an analysis post of the TwisterBE bandwagon, hopefully sometime today

That statement's just bold enough to inspire me with confidence.

Rob - vote CSPVG what? JMich was suspicious of him partly because we misunderstood what he wanted with the claim, and partly because he thought CGOPS might have read the same thing he did into Quad's posts (?!).

And why vote at all? We're on the brink of mass claim. Surely that will be the most infulential thing to your vote for today?


As acting Captain of you dirty brigands I order Twiglet to designate the next player to claim. That player should claim quick as they can. Then they should designate the next player. And so on.
Let's do this! On the double!

As I've already stated several times, I dont think we should be mass claiming yet!!! There are other avenues to explore which give the Mafia much less information, such as bandwagon analysis. ONLY when these avenues are exhausted should we be looking at mass claiming. Its too early in the day...!

Well you're the only one who thinks this Mr Mafia so I says On With The Show.

If your vote analysis comes up with anything that verifies any suspicions that we reveal from the mass claim then do let us know.

And being the only one who thinks so makes you look quite suspicious. You know, the two things are not mutually exclusive. Of course we should do a thorough analysis of the Twister train and of all the postings of day 2. But since we are in a tight spot, we should exhaust ALL options we have - and I think that a mass-claim will help because it will force mafiosi to state something which is possibly falsifiable and thus a lead. Yes, a mass claim gives away the good power roles, which is bad. But not as bad as loosing right away, which we will if we lynch wrong today. So the claim is for me the way where a better chance of saving the town lies.

ALL - it makes sense if you all make a list of Your Ideal Claim order.

That way we can make the most informed decisions on who to pick next.

Well, my view of it is, we don't have a claim, or much of a defense from Day 2, which means any proper analysis is going to cross into the WIFOM defenses more then a few times. While you could come up with an analysis, I don't think there's a lot this time to really work with that makes the analysis worth the effort it takes to put into it.

And as far as the claim, I bring you to this one majorly important point. If we mislynch today, the game's over, town loses. I don't see a point in keeping our roles a secret anymore, if it gives us a chance to actually puts some pieces together and see what fits. Hell, once we have more pieces to the puzzle maybe it becomes more prudent for us to look at the lynches a bit more closely. But the fact is, we're out of time to dance around the topic for much longer, as wasted time means that we lose the advantage of it being sudden.



Well, with Rob sticking his foot in it like that...this makes this a bit harder...but I'm going to go with me 'hmmmmmm' thoughts. Lift, I'd like you to claim next.

No, I think the claiming should go in a unpredictable order to keep the mafia on their toes. It has been said before, if we agree on a fixed order, it becomes more easy to prepare for your claim. So I support the idea that each claimer nominates the next one. And since Twilight has nominated me, I'll go next.

I am Grey. I have visited this planet and this town freqently and I have come to like it. And while I try to do my best to protect this town from harm, I unfortunately lack any special powers to help in protecting it. (apart from my 'vanilla' taste apparently ... I.e. I'm a vanilla townie.)

And now who to nominate next? Joe, because he wanted to go last? He did have a justification, but still I would like him to claim soon. But no, Robbeasy wanted to prevent the mass claim completely, so I think he is quite suspicious at the moment. So Robbeasy, I nominate you. Please claim next.

Well - I see I'm fighting a losing battle with keeping this info under wraps for a little bit longer, and I concede the point Twilight came up with - it is getting late in the day. I will still be doing a bandwagon analysis, but it will probably be tomorrow now...

I am Slartibartfast - the designer of the norwegian fjords in Hitchikers Guide. I like to spend time on this world as it won me awards, but unfortunately my designer skills are of no use in this situation.

So I am just vanilla also , like Lifthrasil.

Come on then Joe - you seemed very keen to go last or late in the day, so lets get you up next please....

Was there any word what alien group you're from? What Series?

BTW, the Skaarj are from Quake, the game series.

I trust this has been enough time, but I'm an idiot who never played older FPS games. The Skaarj are from UNREAL, not Quake...so glad I bothered checking that again.