Posted July 27, 2013
flubbucket
"Intoning"
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From Micronesia
Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
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From Germany
Posted July 28, 2013
TwilightBard: Lifthrasil: Honestly, 457 plus your choice of targets and reasoning, has me confused. You saying it was worded wrong...strikes me as really hard to read now. Not really sure I'm a fan of that.
Well, it was just referring to the fact that I tried to get P1na lynched the day before. And it turned out I wasn't good at convining anyone. Otherwise I could have started a train on him. I also was most likely wrong about P1na - with him having been killed at night. There are still possible scenarios where he could have been mafia, but those are less likely than him being a mafia victim and thus having been town. It really bugs me that we didn't get a reveal on P1na. That would make things easier for the town. Not knowing for sure what he was makes it hard to draw solid conclusions from his death.
As for my choice of target: I still think that is valid. Twister seems to me to be going after the easy targets. I.e. the noobs. One of them being incidentally me. And even after being prodded for other suspects - and reasons for his suspicions - he just evades the question with a generic "I'm keeping an eye on everyone." That really says nothing and doesn't help the town in the least.
I think he is not even trying to help town. But his playstyle would make sense for a mafia player. Reducing the number of townies by going after those who make some noob-errors and otherwise keep a low profile by not revealing too much. Keeping answers short and generic, so that no one can get anything solid on him. All this looks like scum to me.
Vitek
Master of Karate and friendship for everyone
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From British Indian Ocean Territory
Posted July 28, 2013
Heat wave votecount:
QuadrAlien – 2 – flubbucket, JoeSapphire
TwisterBE – 1 - Lifthrasil
Lifthrasil – 1 - TwisterBE
Flubbucket – 1 – QuadrAlien
Not voting – CSPVG, Jmich, SirPrimalform, TwilightBard, Robbeasy
With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
QuadrAlien and TwisterBe are closest to lynch with 2 votes, tied at L-4.
Several players are close to prodding range. Please, post soon or I'll have to prod you.
QuadrAlien – 2 – flubbucket, JoeSapphire
TwisterBE – 1 - Lifthrasil
Lifthrasil – 1 - TwisterBE
Flubbucket – 1 – QuadrAlien
Not voting – CSPVG, Jmich, SirPrimalform, TwilightBard, Robbeasy
With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
QuadrAlien and TwisterBe are closest to lynch with 2 votes, tied at L-4.
Several players are close to prodding range. Please, post soon or I'll have to prod you.
Post edited July 29, 2013 by Vitek
my name is catte
i touch your foods
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From United Kingdom
Posted July 28, 2013
Hmm, after a light bit of re-reading I feel ok in voting QuadrAlien. I agree with Flub's reasoning in #467.
JMich
A Horrible Human Person. If you need me, chat.
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From Greece
Posted July 28, 2013
Ok, real life messes with me quite a bit, so couldn't reply earlier.
As I said before, I still don't have any solid reads to classify someone as scum or not. Still, my 4 scummiest picks, in no particular order:
SirPrimalForm. He pushed a bit too hard for lynching N0x0ss. Today he happily jumps on a wagon because he agrees with Flubbucket, but doesn't post his reasons.
Lifthrasil. His playstyle does seem consistent with someone who was thrown in the deep end of the pool and finds himself swimming with sharks, but it could be a scum trying to look confused. Not to mention the fact that he does switch his vote quite a bit, and it could be used as a defence later on to explain his frantic vote switching.
CSPVG. I had to go back and see if he had actually posted during Day 2. He has posted, and he was the one that asked us for the scummiest reads after all. Not sure why I have pegged him as not participating all that much this day, probably due to him being ill.
QuadrAlien. I have a bad habit of acting like a dog with a bone. Once I find someone suspicious during Day 1, I continue to hound them. Not to mention the fact that he proposes a plan that counts on him dying and flipping town. That could either be a townie who doesn't care about himself, or a scum taking a chance that his bluff will protect him.
I also keep thinking that we have a few people not posting, but I probably need more sleep. Let's see how the day develops.
As I said before, I still don't have any solid reads to classify someone as scum or not. Still, my 4 scummiest picks, in no particular order:
SirPrimalForm. He pushed a bit too hard for lynching N0x0ss. Today he happily jumps on a wagon because he agrees with Flubbucket, but doesn't post his reasons.
Lifthrasil. His playstyle does seem consistent with someone who was thrown in the deep end of the pool and finds himself swimming with sharks, but it could be a scum trying to look confused. Not to mention the fact that he does switch his vote quite a bit, and it could be used as a defence later on to explain his frantic vote switching.
CSPVG. I had to go back and see if he had actually posted during Day 2. He has posted, and he was the one that asked us for the scummiest reads after all. Not sure why I have pegged him as not participating all that much this day, probably due to him being ill.
QuadrAlien. I have a bad habit of acting like a dog with a bone. Once I find someone suspicious during Day 1, I continue to hound them. Not to mention the fact that he proposes a plan that counts on him dying and flipping town. That could either be a townie who doesn't care about himself, or a scum taking a chance that his bluff will protect him.
I also keep thinking that we have a few people not posting, but I probably need more sleep. Let's see how the day develops.
flubbucket
"Intoning"
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From Micronesia
Posted July 28, 2013
JMich: ...........................<Math Snip>..................
I also keep thinking that we have a few people not posting, but I probably need more sleep. Let's see how the day develops.
Total up the posts of CSPVG, Lifthrasil, and SirPrimalform it is more than JMich, JoeSapphire,QuadrAlien, Robbeasy, TwilightBard, and TwisterBE combined. I also keep thinking that we have a few people not posting, but I probably need more sleep. Let's see how the day develops.
So yup, I think we have a few people not posting.
I take notes.
JMich
A Horrible Human Person. If you need me, chat.
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From Greece
Posted July 28, 2013
flubbucket: Total up the posts of CSPVG, Lifthrasil, and SirPrimalform it is more than JMich, JoeSapphire,QuadrAlien, Robbeasy, TwilightBard, and TwisterBE combined.
I think Lifthrasil post count does skew the results quite a bit, but I don't doubt the above fact. Thank you. Would it be possible to have a post count as well, since it seems you've already done most of the work? If not, I'll try to do one myself tomorrow.
Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
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From Germany
Posted July 28, 2013
Don't worry, my post count will go down in the coming two weeks. I'm going on a vacation on Tuesday. I'll still try to access the internet once a day, but more will not be possible, I guess.
CSPVG
Headless
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From South Africa
my name is catte
i touch your foods
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From United Kingdom
Posted July 28, 2013
JMich: SirPrimalForm. He pushed a bit too hard for lynching N0x0ss. Today he happily jumps on a wagon because he agrees with Flubbucket, but doesn't post his reasons.
I'm not sure pushing is the right word. I had conviction in my vote but I didn't really try and convince others. As for my most recent vote, Flubbucket's reasons are my reasons. Would you have preferred I paraphrase Flub's post? Just because I made reference to another post for my reasons doesn't mean I don't take responsibility for my vote. I seem to remember someone earlier suggesting that when someone votes because of reasons given by someone else they can somehow blame a bad lynch on the someone else. This seems strange to me as it seems obvious that one should be considered responsible for their own vote.
QuadrAlien
Mechfusilier
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From United Kingdom
Posted July 28, 2013
JMich: QuadrAlien. I have a bad habit of acting like a dog with a bone. Once I find someone suspicious during Day 1, I continue to hound them. Not to mention the fact that he proposes a plan that counts on him dying and flipping town. That could either be a townie who doesn't care about himself, or a scum taking a chance that his bluff will protect him.
I feel "plan" might be the wrong word. "Prediction" would be more accurate - it's more how badly things could have gone wrong by Day 3, and is hardly the sort of thing I want to see occurring. So much for my idea of clarity, it appears.
flubbucket
"Intoning"
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From Micronesia
Posted July 28, 2013
flubbucket: Total up the posts of CSPVG, Lifthrasil, and SirPrimalform it is more than JMich, JoeSapphire,QuadrAlien, Robbeasy, TwilightBard, and TwisterBE combined.
JMich: I think Lifthrasil post count does skew the results quite a bit, but I don't doubt the above fact. Thank you. Would it be possible to have a post count as well, since it seems you've already done most of the work? If not, I'll try to do one myself tomorrow.
flubbucket 66
Jmich 40
JoeSapphire 33
Lifthrasil 68
Noxoss 61
QuadrAlien 11
Pina 42
Robbeasy 20
SirPrimalform 48
TwilightBard 20
TwisterBE 16
Vitek 21
pazzer 7
As of post count # 506
TwilightBard
Luteless Bard
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From United States
Posted July 29, 2013
I'm gonna peg this one as unacceptable. The question is, who amongst us all pings your scumdar to the point where they'd get your vote next? Who qualifies as secondary?
@SirPrimalForm: I'm not a fan of just the 'agreement' votes because it doesn't bring anything from the people who are agreeing. I mean, it's fine that you agree with reasoning, but you have to have something that isn't exactly the same as what Flubb said.
@Lift: Honestly, the back and forth from your convincing isn't enough for me to register a vote. But what I'm not liking is you turning that into a chance to attack Twist. That makes me nervous about my thoughts.
@Quad: Same question I gave to Twister, give us an idea of who you're keeping a specific eye on, please.
I don't really have many thoughts. I had a target going into Night 1, but I've been sitting there rethinking that. So that's a null point. I'm not sure if I agree with the sudden shut down of the talk about the NK, but I also have an odd feeling about seeing Quad being so quick to bring up a role that fits the scenario.
My thoughts about the NK? Well, I think P1na was killed, for 2 potential reasons. The first is simple, he was most likely a target that the Mafia (And yes, I think p1na was town. This is based on the fact that it's the simplest explanation, it's harder to dive into a scenario that has a serial killer at this point without evidence) thought wouldn't be targetted for protection, and if an investigative role targeted him, they wouldn't have gotten any actual information. And the experienced of us wouldn't be able to get a lot of information from the kill at the point in time.
The second reason? As I said earlier, the new players are wild cards. It sounds weird to say, but a lot of people find it easier to try to fool people that they can argue have established mannerisms and ways of thinking.
@SirPrimalForm: I'm not a fan of just the 'agreement' votes because it doesn't bring anything from the people who are agreeing. I mean, it's fine that you agree with reasoning, but you have to have something that isn't exactly the same as what Flubb said.
@Lift: Honestly, the back and forth from your convincing isn't enough for me to register a vote. But what I'm not liking is you turning that into a chance to attack Twist. That makes me nervous about my thoughts.
@Quad: Same question I gave to Twister, give us an idea of who you're keeping a specific eye on, please.
I don't really have many thoughts. I had a target going into Night 1, but I've been sitting there rethinking that. So that's a null point. I'm not sure if I agree with the sudden shut down of the talk about the NK, but I also have an odd feeling about seeing Quad being so quick to bring up a role that fits the scenario.
My thoughts about the NK? Well, I think P1na was killed, for 2 potential reasons. The first is simple, he was most likely a target that the Mafia (And yes, I think p1na was town. This is based on the fact that it's the simplest explanation, it's harder to dive into a scenario that has a serial killer at this point without evidence) thought wouldn't be targetted for protection, and if an investigative role targeted him, they wouldn't have gotten any actual information. And the experienced of us wouldn't be able to get a lot of information from the kill at the point in time.
The second reason? As I said earlier, the new players are wild cards. It sounds weird to say, but a lot of people find it easier to try to fool people that they can argue have established mannerisms and ways of thinking.
Robbeasy
Too Old
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From United Kingdom
Posted July 29, 2013
unvote twisterBE
I'm away for the next four days, after also being away for the weekend just gone, with no access to internet to speak of. i will try to get to an internet cafe or some suc to catch up at some point , otherwise its Thursday night or Friday before I'm able to post again.
Sorry all!
I'm away for the next four days, after also being away for the weekend just gone, with no access to internet to speak of. i will try to get to an internet cafe or some suc to catch up at some point , otherwise its Thursday night or Friday before I'm able to post again.
Sorry all!
CSPVG
Headless
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From South Africa
Posted July 29, 2013
I promise to get back to the present situation soon, but after the notes I made yesterday, I can't help but address one remaining issue( I can't seem to find a better word at the moment). This being: Did we actually agree to follow Joe's Lynch All Liars idea? It didn't seem like it to me. Does anyone think it would be helpful to hold a quick yay or nay vote, to establish whether we all agree to follow the LAL rule?