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Posted July 17, 2013
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Lifthrasil: Actually yes. And we are playing in one (as long as vitek doesn't invent the role of a corrupt cop). But joking aside, I still get the impression that you are stalling instead of trying to help. Lightening the mood with a few non-serios posts is fine. But hiding behind inexperience as an excuse for lurking is not fine. I'm inexperienced too and yet I try my best to contribute. And since the damage control argument for voting on pazzer isn't valid any more, I might as well stop voting for QuadAlien. Because at the moment with your insistence on only waiting (with a deadline looming ahead) makes you more suspicious than him. So:

vote P1na!


@N0x0ss: you are right in your accusation that I seem to suspect everyone. This game somehow makes one paranoid. Sorry if that comes over as overly critical. But I think it is part of the game that everybody could be mafia. So all we can do is try to guess likelihoods and at the moment P1na (obviously), TwisterBE, QuadAlien, you and CSPVG are leading my likelihood list.
Well, joking around is how I get the most fun. If that gets me killed, so be it. And I honestly don't really know how to contribute, reading these post doesn't make me think that someone is trying to get the rest killed. It just doesn't. And btw, I don't think your vote counts if you don't bold it.

Then again, maybe I'm just not motivated. I blame Vitek for not giving me a mafia role that lets me roleplay hunting police. Being townie just isn't as interesting.

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Oops, I probably shouldn't have said that, I gave myself away.
Posted July 17, 2013
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N0x0ss: Please be so kind as to provide a link to the initial post he's talking to me about ? The post flubbucket and Lifthrasil (Who finds EVERYTHING suspicious btw) found suspicious ?
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JMich: Post 279. He suggests focusing our discussion on the two people with the most votes, and ignoring the others.
If he later claimed "No, it was a ruse to judge reactions", would that make him more or less suspect?
Of course it'd make him suspicious. I did screw up and I assume my failure.
Heck, If I was an observer I'd most probably think that N0x0ss (Myself), JMich and JoeSapphire are the three mafia players, the two latter ones trying desperately to keep the first one from getting lynched.
Posted July 17, 2013
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TwilightBard: But, Votewise, I'm doing this. Vote CSPVG, his comment about bringing the discussion to be about only 2 people strikes me as way to odd to ignore. I sorta feel like something's up with it, even if I can understand where it might be coming from. It just comes across as an attempt to move the conversation in a direction that doesn't benefit town.
I can't believe i'm defending my number 1 suspect, but have you considered the possibility he was suggesting this to speed things up before the deadline (Was there a deadline fixed or atleast a deadline mention at the time of his message ? ) to avoid a no-lynch on day 1 ?

Other then that, if we consider he is indeed mafia, it probably means that neither I nor TwisterBE are mafia, otherwise he'd try to save one of us, and it wouldn't be wise to suggest a focus on both of us.
Funny because CSPVG and TwisterBE are on my top suspect list...are they incompatible as mafia :( ?
Posted July 17, 2013
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Lifthrasil: Just curious: is there a difference between vote and megavote? It's the second time that this expression appears.
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SirPrimalform: Nah, just a joke I stole from Joe. I was using it to illustrate how strongly I feel in this case. :P
I love Advance Wars!! I'm going to go dig up a Game Boy right now.

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P1na: Well, mafia or police. But who likes police anyway?
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Lifthrasil: Townies do. Because cops protect the town. The only ones with a reason not to like cops are mafia! :-)
These young men seem to like the Police

You know this is why I'm not allowed into the Petting Zoo anymore right??
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JoeSapphire: ...................<Censorsnip>...............

No that was a sort of quote from you. It went -

CFDSG: I think that there are only aliens in the game.
Bucket: You might be right, but you're not.
CPFGV: How can you be so sure?
Bucket: [censored]

-something a little like that. When I actually thought about that context I was MILDLY appeased.

............................<BlackBox>.........................
However your vote is not on JMich or JoeSapphire.
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JMich: Post 279. He suggests focusing our discussion on the two people with the most votes, and ignoring the others.
If he later claimed "No, it was a ruse to judge reactions", would that make him more or less suspect?
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N0x0ss: Of course it'd make him suspicious. I did screw up and I assume my failure.
Heck, If I was an observer I'd most probably think that N0x0ss (Myself), JMich and JoeSapphire are the three mafia players, the two latter ones trying desperately to keep the first one from getting lynched.
Posted July 17, 2013
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P1na: And btw, I don't think your vote counts if you don't bold it.
Right. Thanks for the reminder.

vote P1na
Posted July 17, 2013
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Lifthrasil: Right. Thanks for the reminder.

vote P1na
See? I'm contributing!
Posted July 17, 2013
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P1na: And btw, I don't think your vote counts if you don't bold it.
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Lifthrasil: Right. Thanks for the reminder.

vote P1na
By GOD ! Stop jumping trains ! If you weren't a new player, you'd probably be lynched by now !
Voting is a pressure tool, if you over-use it, people won't take you seriously anymore...
Furthermore, were you hoping to lead a new train on P1na ? Because it'll take much more then your arguments to convince anybody to shift their votes against him...
Posted July 17, 2013
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Lifthrasil: Right. Thanks for the reminder.

vote P1na
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N0x0ss: By GOD ! Stop jumping trains ! If you weren't a new player, you'd probably be lynched by now !
Voting is a pressure tool, if you over-use it, people won't take you seriously anymore...
Furthermore, were you hoping to lead a new train on P1na ? Because it'll take much more then your arguments to convince anybody to shift their votes against him...
Well the only reason I switched my vote was to save my own ass. I voted on someone I think was innocent(noxoss).
I won't change my vote yet, since the deadline is close and I don't want a no lynch. But P1na is next for me...
Posted July 17, 2013
Ok guys, we've still got time to figure this out.

Let's study each one of those 4 scenarios and try to see what mafias would do :

Scenario 1) N0x0ss and QuadAlien are both Townies.
Scenario 2) N0x0ss is Mafia, QuadAlien is Townie.
Scenario 3) N0x0ss is Townie, QuadAlien is Mafia.
Scenario 4) N0x0ss and QuadAlien are both Mafia.

Let's start with the worst case Scenario for townies : Scenario 1.

I think JMich said that the best play for mafia on day 1 was try and get a no-lynch so that there was no trace to lead back to them. Now, I personally believe that in case of Scenario 1 and with a near Tie vote between QuadAlien and N0x0ss, it'd be in mafia's best interest to get either one of us lynched. Since either one of us have good reasons to get lynch (even if we are townies) they'd still get away with it without raising suspicion, and they'll get 2 kills before the next day !

If we go by this logic, Mafias would try to divert the existing votes to one of us. They'd probably try and convince those who haven't voted for any of us (Lifthrasil or TwilightBard) to vote.
So far rather then trying to convince players to vote for X or Y, players have just been explaining why they're voting for X and Y.

Thought personally I've been sensing a perseverance from SirPrimalform to frame me, I highly doubt a mafia would take so much risk as to Megavote me several time. The repercussions would be terrible for him, if it turns out I'm townie, after the lynch.

Anybody feel free to comment and state his opinion as to what a mafia would do if scenario 1 was applicable.
Posted July 17, 2013
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N0x0ss: Thought personally I've been sensing a perseverance from SirPrimalform to frame me, I highly doubt a mafia would take so much risk as to Megavote me several time. The repercussions would be terrible for him, if it turns out I'm townie, after the lynch.
Frame is a pretty strong word.

Yes I'm pushing for your lynch, but I feel it's justified based on your actions in this game. Can you give an example of me trying to frame you? I think you've framed yourself to be honest.
Posted July 17, 2013
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SirPrimalform: Yes I'm pushing for your lynch, but I feel it's justified based on your actions in this game. Can you give an example of me trying to frame you? I think you've framed yourself to be honest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=VBe_guezGGc#t=3s
Posted July 17, 2013
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N0x0ss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=VBe_guezGGc#t=3s
So... are you comparing me or yourself to ol' Bill there?
Posted July 17, 2013
We get it, mate. You think I'm an evil scum. Now instead of wasting your time pointing your chubby finger at me and shouting "MAFIA MAFIA, HE'S A MAFIA" you might wanna use your game time to find other targets, no ?
Posted July 17, 2013
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N0x0ss: We get it, mate. You think I'm an evil scum. Now instead of wasting your time pointing your chubby finger at me and shouting "MAFIA MAFIA, HE'S A MAFIA" you might wanna use your game time to find other targets, no ?
Hey, I was responding to you subtly accusing me of framing you.
Posted July 17, 2013
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SirPrimalform: Hey, I was responding to you subtly accusing me of framing you.
Ah... sorry about that...
I meant that by insisting I was scum, and repeating it over and over again, you were the only player in the whole game who tried to persuade (directly or indirectly) other players to vote for x or y player (Moi en l'occurence).
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