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General discussion (archive)Excellent gaming news from Activision! [/sarcasm](120 posts)(120 posts)
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Posted March 03, 2010
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Gundato: At which point they are competing in the browser-game market, and we agree. Indie devs just can't compete for certain categories. You are never going to see an indie dev competing for atmospheric set-pieces or battles that blow your mind as particle beams flash across your cockpit.

At least not yet. There really isn't much left to do with graphics (in terms of 2D techs, anyway) and as the technology gets more refined, it's going to be cheaper to acquire and use.
Also, the opposite is true. There are some things that large companies are always going to be behind indies on. Since they have larger budgets, they need a wider base to recover their budgets. And when the base is wider, you don't have much room for experimentation.
And to be fair, there isn't much competition for particle beams across the cockpit lately. That genre seems to be pretty dead now. :p
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drmlessgames: Some comments from other sites mentioned this might be a stunt by IW/Activision, since Bad Company 2 was just released and it's the game everyone's engeged on now.
So they're going to react to their loss in the limelight by giving themselves bad PR? That sounds stupid, even for Activision. Then again, with Kotick in charge...
Posted March 03, 2010
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Gundato: At which point they are competing in the browser-game market, and we agree. Indie devs just can't compete for certain categories. You are never going to see an indie dev competing for atmospheric set-pieces or battles that blow your mind as particle beams flash across your cockpit.
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Chordata: At least not yet. There really isn't much left to do with graphics (in terms of 2D techs, anyway) and as the technology gets more refined, it's going to be cheaper to acquire and use.
Also, the opposite is true. There are some things that large companies are always going to be behind indies on. Since they have larger budgets, they need a wider base to recover their budgets. And when the base is wider, you don't have much room for experimentation.
And to be fair, there isn't much competition for particle beams across the cockpit lately. That genre seems to be pretty dead now. :p
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drmlessgames: Some comments from other sites mentioned this might be a stunt by IW/Activision, since Bad Company 2 was just released and it's the game everyone's engeged on now.
So they're going to react to their loss in the limelight by giving themselves bad PR? That sounds stupid, even for Activision. Then again, with Kotick in charge...

Well, obviously. Both "categories" can do things the other can't. But that is just it, there will always be things that one "category" can do that the other can't.
We will NEVER see a cutting-edge super-shiny set-piece filled extravaganza like Modern Warfare 2('s single player) come from an indie dev. They just can't compete with that. But by that same token, we will almost never see any truly experimental (and borderline non-game) games like, well, pretty much half the mainstream indie games over the past year :p
Posted March 03, 2010
I think I am going to have to start pirating from some publishers just on princible. Pity the studios get screwed in the process, but then most studios have been bought by publishers anyway.
Posted March 03, 2010
I find it amusing that just over a week before this happens, Bobby 'The Bollix' Kotick was giving an interview trying to persuade us that he is just a normal human. Back to business and Bobby's back bitches!
Posted March 03, 2010
Activision is making a new Call of Duty game, oh whatever...
Edit: Latest news, it will be $69.99 on PC, yes!
Post edited March 03, 2010 by acare84
Posted March 03, 2010
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acare84: Activision is making a new Call of Duty game, oh whatever...
Edit: Latest news, it will be $69.99 on PC, yes!

Oh goodie, now this is a race for being the most pirated game.
CoD or AC2
Who would win?
Posted March 04, 2010
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acare84: Activision is making a new Call of Duty game, oh whatever...
Edit: Latest news, it will be $69.99 on PC, yes!

Where the hell did you see that?
Oh, and Wikipedia says there's three being developed by three different developers. One is even an "action-adventure" spin-off. Who let Kotick into the games industry anyway?
Posted March 04, 2010
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Chordata: Who let Kotick into the games industry anyway?

Uh...the shareholders? >_>
Posted March 04, 2010
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anjohl: The problem is that most customers don't have the fortitude that you and I obviously do.
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DosFreak: Yup, and the common response is they are just "games". :Why should I worry so much about a "game"." These are usually the same people who don't worry about real-life things they SHOULD be worried about as well. Basically nothing you can do unless you want to be a Hitler and kill 'em all.

...or a Thoreau and go live in the woods.
Posted March 10, 2010
Activision, and by that meaning Mr. Bobby Kotick, is just too greedy for their own good. I won't buy any Activision games at all, DRM free or not, not from here, not from elsewhere.
Posted March 10, 2010
Pardon me, but Activision is retarded.
Posted March 11, 2010
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drmlessgames: Activision, and by that meaning Mr. Bobby Kotick, is just too greedy for their own good. I won't buy any Activision games at all, DRM free or not, not from here, not from elsewhere.

I wanted to buy Prototype, but played it on someone's else copy and the cutscenes so cheap. The gameplay is so unlean, I am surprised it got even released.
NEVA FORGET
Post edited March 11, 2010 by Tantrix
Posted March 11, 2010
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drmlessgames: Activision, and by that meaning Mr. Bobby Kotick, is just too greedy for their own good. I won't buy any Activision games at all, DRM free or not, not from here, not from elsewhere.

I disagree. To 'educate' a company, you also have to reward good behaviors in addition to punish bad behaviors.
Posted March 11, 2010
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drmlessgames: Activision, and by that meaning Mr. Bobby Kotick, is just too greedy for their own good. I won't buy any Activision games at all, DRM free or not, not from here, not from elsewhere.
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Catshade: I disagree. To 'educate' a company, you also have to reward good behaviors in addition to punish bad behaviors.

On the contrary, you can punish Kotick and reward every game developer, who survived under him.
Posted March 11, 2010
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AndrewC: I totally agree, just look at EA and how they changed after all the backlash they got

EA lost a billion dollars in 2008....
Activision from what i heard is profitable.
yeah. it saddens me too.
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