Posted February 15, 2009

Weclock
The Creeper
Registered: Sep 2008
From United States

lukaszthegreat
Greed is good!
Registered: Sep 2008
From Norfolk Island
Posted February 15, 2009
I won't even try to read whole discussion. will just say my opinion.
as much as i think this game is sick i dislike the idea of this kind of games being prohibited.
Personally I dislike ANY form of censorship.
Where we draw a line? if rape game is bad, what about other sex games? are they bad too?
and what about games which allows you to beat up a person with a baseball bat till he drops dead (fallout 3) or run over a old lady till tyres leave blood marks on the street (GTA)?
who decides what is bad? bunch of old politicians who think realistic portrayal of morphine usage will cause increase in narcotics use?
I don't like that.
as much as i think this game is sick i dislike the idea of this kind of games being prohibited.
Personally I dislike ANY form of censorship.
Where we draw a line? if rape game is bad, what about other sex games? are they bad too?
and what about games which allows you to beat up a person with a baseball bat till he drops dead (fallout 3) or run over a old lady till tyres leave blood marks on the street (GTA)?
who decides what is bad? bunch of old politicians who think realistic portrayal of morphine usage will cause increase in narcotics use?
I don't like that.

Nafe
Crumpy Gunt
Registered: Dec 2008
From United Kingdom

Wishbone
Red herring
Registered: Oct 2008
From Denmark
Posted February 15, 2009

It is a fact of the world that people will disagree and view things differently. ...snip

I second that.

Shoelip
I need an avatar
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
Posted February 15, 2009

It is a fact of the world that people will disagree and view things differently. If there is to be any peace we must accept that. So long as we are asking "Is it right or wrong, should they be doing this?" when forging social policy we will be part of the problem. It doesn't matter if it is right or wrong, what matters is who if anyone is being harmed. You can say all day that Rapelay is sick and make arguments on if it is more or less sick than Manhunt, but at the end of the day none of it matters. What matters is the game does not involve raping real people, and so long as that is true each person can make their own decision about it.
It is stupid, people like to make others go by what they think is 'right' or 'wrong' no matter how subjective it is. This is the nonesense behind oppressing people of other religions. I personally think Christianity is 'sick', but I have no right to enforce that viewpoint as social policy. It is popular to want world peace, but sadly everyone insists that it cannot exist except on their terms. They want anything that makes them emotionally uncomfortable to be gotten rid of, often altogether so it cannot even exist in private. They don't care if it truly disrupts society, though if pressed will pull ways it supposedly does or might out of their rear-end.
I see 'sick' as somewhat of a manupulative nonesense term. It has no significant meaning, but people treat it like the be all and end all what what should and should not be allowed. Sick simply means it makes you feel uncomfortable, and when you have to resort to that as the reason something ought not to be allowed you have already lost. The world doesn't revolve around you, and social norms do not make this ok. We either accept that or we submit ourselves to be endlessly ripping at each other's throats about petty nonesense.
I expect many here will not accept what I have to say. Why? Because it would mean *gasp* looking inside yourself and personally dealing with your own feelings. That is really what this comes down to. They are uncomfortable and rather than personally dealing with their own feelings, they selfishly push their own burden on everyone else. All their arguments are just to hide that fact, both from themselves and others.
Simply ignoring something that you have a problem with will just allow your feelings to turn to hatred. Then again, most of the time talking about it doesn't help either.

Aliasalpha
Once Proud
Registered: Dec 2008
From Australia

Shoelip
I need an avatar
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
Posted February 15, 2009


No, the next step after hatred is violence. I'm just saying there's no clear answer.

Aliasalpha
Once Proud
Registered: Dec 2008
From Australia
Posted February 15, 2009
but... but... My chainsaw! I just found it!
Also, if yoda is right, doesn't hate lead to suffering rather than violence?
Also, if yoda is right, doesn't hate lead to suffering rather than violence?

Shoelip
I need an avatar
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
Posted February 15, 2009
Post edited February 15, 2009 by Shoelip

Aliasalpha
Once Proud
Registered: Dec 2008
From Australia
Posted February 16, 2009
"One mistake and for the rest of my life, I pay"

michaelleung
YOU ARE ALL RETARDS
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
Posted February 16, 2009


How do you know the next step is violence if there's no clear answer... it could be a peaceful resolution... I'm just pointing that out.

Shoelip
I need an avatar
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
Posted February 16, 2009

I'm not seeing how not knowing how to prevent something means you can't know what you're preventing.
Throughout human history hate has led to violence. So the question is, how do we stop hate? There's no clear answer to that.

michaelleung
YOU ARE ALL RETARDS
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
Posted February 16, 2009


Throughout human history hate has led to violence. So the question is, how do we stop hate? There's no clear answer to that.
This might tell you how to stop hate:
A site that teaches you how to stop hate.

Shoelip
I need an avatar
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
Posted February 16, 2009

Throughout human history hate has led to violence. So the question is, how do we stop hate? There's no clear answer to that.

A site that teaches you how to stop hate.
No, that just makes people annoyed.

michaelleung
YOU ARE ALL RETARDS
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada