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Apparently, there's this Japanese "game" (more like "most evil thing created in the universe" called Rapelay, where you do the unthinkable to a mother and her two daughters (the youngest cries while you're at it). People did some digging, and discovered that it's also available on Amazon. Amazon promptly went "OH S**T!" and pulled their copies. After a bit (though not mentioned on this particular article), Overstock.com and eBay removed theirs, too, apoligizing to everyone who was offended.
[url=]http://jezebel.com/5152478/amazon-drops-rape-simulation-video-game[/url]
What I'm really curious about is how a disgusting thing like this even made it onto their sites. Do they even CHECK the kind of s**t they put on their websites anymore?
Post edited February 14, 2009 by TheCheese33
oh man, they removed it?
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Weclock: oh man, they removed it?

Yep. If you want a more in-depth look *shudder* of what this game's like, check out SomethingAwful's review:
[url=]http://www.somethingawful.com/d/hentai-game-reviews/rapelay.php[/url]
On the one hand, I tend to agree that's pretty despicable. However, in the interests of being logical, I have to ask - what do you think of Manhunt? I never really had a problem with that game, despite it being horrifically violent. The idea of a rape game doesn't seem logically much worse than the idea of a snuff movie game but it does make me very uneasy none the less.
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Nafe: On the one hand, I tend to agree that's pretty despicable. However, in the interests of being logical, I have to ask - what do you think of Manhunt? I never really had a problem with that game, despite it being horrifically violent. The idea of a rape game doesn't seem logically much worse than the idea of a snuff movie game but it does make me very uneasy none the less.

Graphic violence in media such as movies and games is in most countries considered acceptable from a certain age and onwards.
This is not the case with a rape sim so logically it is very different.
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Nafe: On the one hand, I tend to agree that's pretty despicable. However, in the interests of being logical, I have to ask - what do you think of Manhunt? I never really had a problem with that game, despite it being horrifically violent. The idea of a rape game doesn't seem logically much worse than the idea of a snuff movie game but it does make me very uneasy none the less.

Oh, I don't know; maybe because violating a little girl while she's crying seems CONSIDERABLY worse than choking someone with a plastic bag?
Honestly, if I was in charge of any of these websites, whoever was in charge of putting that on my website would be instantly fired. Honestly, the game's called Rapelay. That name should be sending off warning signals right when anyone hears it!
Post edited February 14, 2009 by TheCheese33
I don't really see it as evil, actually. I'd rather have a bunch sexually aberrant guys fulfill their rape fantasies in a video game than in real life. I don't give a damn what you get off to, as long as you don't bother anyone else in the process.
I think you're being a little too biased here. Firstly, "evil" is merely personal (why do you think some people like child porn?). Secondly, if it was so bad, why would it still exist? Wouldn't you think that the ratings board would kick this in the shins? Thirdly, what the hell is Jezebel doing, writing about a game? They're supposed to be writing about Lindsay Lohan's lastest lesbian adventure or something.
I'm not defending the game (nor would I want to), I just think that people should look on the other side.
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michaelleung: I think you're being a little too biased here. Firstly, "evil" is merely personal (why do you think some people like child porn?). Secondly, if it was so bad, why would it still exist? Wouldn't you think that the ratings board would kick this in the shins? Thirdly, what the hell is Jezebel doing, writing about a game? They're supposed to be writing about Lindsay Lohan's lastest lesbian adventure or something.
I'm not defending the game (nor would I want to), I just think that people should look on the other side.

1. True, evil is personal, but there are certain things that most view as evil. Hitler, for example. I'm sure that for most people, sexually assaulting a minor isn't exactly viewed in a positive light.
2. It's from Japan. Japan's pretty lenient on what gets put into games. Their adult game market in particular does very well for itself. The Japanese company that publishes this also houses several other erotica games. Those other games aren't as bad, because the women in those games aren't being forced, so it's not rape.
3. Not sure about that one. I was reading Kotaku, and they linked to Jezebel with the story. Maybe it's to get more people who are interested in video games to visit their partner's sites?
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michaelleung: I think you're being a little too biased here. Firstly, "evil" is merely personal (why do you think some people like child porn?). Secondly, if it was so bad, why would it still exist? Wouldn't you think that the ratings board would kick this in the shins? Thirdly, what the hell is Jezebel doing, writing about a game? They're supposed to be writing about Lindsay Lohan's lastest lesbian adventure or something.
I'm not defending the game (nor would I want to), I just think that people should look on the other side.
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TheCheese33: 1. True, evil is personal, but there are certain things that most view as evil. Hitler, for example. I'm sure that for most people, sexually assaulting a minor isn't exactly viewed in a positive light.
2. It's from Japan. Japan's pretty lenient on what gets put into games. Their adult game market in particular does very well for itself. The Japanese company that publishes this also houses several other erotica games. Those other games aren't as bad, because the women in those games aren't being forced, so it's not rape.
3. Not sure about that one. I was reading Kotaku, and they linked to Jezebel with the story. Maybe it's to get more people who are interested in video games to visit their partner's sites?

Say that Hitler is evil, and the white supremacists (lovingly spread all over the South) and neo-Nazis will beat you to death faster than you can say Roosevelt.
Go to any hotel in Japan and turn on the TV. You will be much surprised by the rape porn found there.
Post edited February 14, 2009 by michaelleung
censorship is bad, ok?
Instead of pulling the game, they should have just let it flop, because if it's so bad, no one will buy it anyway. I'm not into erotic games, I think sex and video games should be separated. but this is just wrong, removing the game from their catalogue because it depicts rape. You know what else depicts rape? a bajillion horror movies, crime stories, that film 8mm depicts snuff. You might say "well in those it is not the observer who is committing rape!" well how many times have you heard that fictional story about little jimmy who jumped off the roof to fly like Superman... You're not Superman when you watch it, you're still just an observer.
my point being, is if someone is going to misinterpret something, they're going to do just that.
It's ridiculous.
Post edited February 14, 2009 by Weclock
The thing is, it's all shades of grey. It's all a matter of where your personal limits for what you can accept in games are. For me, this game would absolutely be past my limits, and I think it should be past anyone's limits. However, I love playing some of the GTA games, in which I can run up to any old lady in the street, beat her to death with a baseball bat and get away with it. (I don't love the games solely because of this, you understand). So what's the difference? Both are highly illegal, antisocial and despicable acts. I know where I stand on the matter, but that's my personal opinion, and I can't really make a compelling argument in favor of my viewpoint, other than "that's how I feel".
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TheCheese33: Those other games aren't as bad, because the women in those games aren't being forced, so it's not rape.

I think it's interesting that you say those games are not "as" bad. Why are they bad at all?
Post edited February 14, 2009 by Wishbone
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michaelleung: Go to any hotel in Japan and turn on the TV. You will be much surprised by the rape porn found there.

You ever heard of a city called Nanking?????
Go check out a bit of history bubba, then you might not be surprised by that.
Post edited February 14, 2009 by Luned
News in Belfast Telegraph and heated comments about it. Aparently British member of the parliament, Keith Vaz, plans to raise the issue in the Parliament.
@TheCheese33: At quick glance only about 1/5-1/4 of illusions game deal with or have scenes with rape ;)
@Weclock: Couple of hentai films on linked amazon page depicts rape :P Amazon should pretty much ditch their entire hentai movie catalog if they're so much against rape :P
And censorship is root of all evil as is DRM.
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Zhirek: Graphic violence in media such as movies and games is in most countries considered acceptable from a certain age and onwards.
This is not the case with a rape sim so logically it is very different.

That's not logic, that's just accepting societies norms. If we go by America's standards violence is OK, swearing - not so much. Take a look at Heroes - people are routinely getting their heads ripped open. Last weeks lost had a guy get his arm ripped off. I've never even heard a single one of them say "shit" let alone any harder swear words. That speaks volumes to the accepted norm in American society, logic is nowhere to be seen.
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TheCheese33: Oh, I don't know; maybe because violating a little girl while she's crying seems CONSIDERABLY worse than choking someone with a plastic bag?

It does, but lets take this a bit further. What if the rape simulator didn't have any minors. What if woman being raped was a brutal gang member so you take away that "innocent" aspect, like Manhunt tried to do by having you only kill violent psychopaths. Would that make it OK? In Manhunt you're encouraged to take a chainsaw and slice people in half, the plastic bag is the first item you use to kill in the game but it gets a *lot* more violent.
Come to think of it, as Wishbone said - you can kill masses of completely innocent people in GTA and I'm assuming most of you don't have a problem with it (nor do I). I'm just trying to look at the situation from a logical standpoint.