Hmm, anyone any experience with ereaders besides kindle?

I like paper. It feels better in my hands, it's nice and big, dead trees are awesome, and of course, if you lose it on the bus it doesn't cost you much.

Kindle has some pretty annoying restrictions and terms of use. I'm shocked ppl actually put up with that stuff.

Hi, I was looking at the new Bebook Neo, but the damn thing costs 300 EUR and for North America only 300$. So I was wondering, since I am goint to USA in a couple of weeks, do you think it is possible to order the ereader from mybebook.com from USA and ship it to Slovenia :) I get a great reader for 300$ :)
The device ships from within Europe.

I would dive into the Kindle full speed if it had better PDF support. I am not into paying money for digital "books" I don't own...the pricing is ridiculous.

Of course, a digital edition of that book isn't of much use when the PC is broken...

like?
what i am worried about is the "steam problem" that amazon can lock me out and i will lose all books i purchased.
Books can survive ages. Back at home i have books which are over 100 years old. Heck. I got a book purchased in Australia for 5 bucks which is twice the age of the country.
and that's awesome :)
but the again. convenience of having digital books is just so big.

I am investigating this as well. Few things I discovered:
I brought a SD card with various ebooks in to Costco to try out the Aluratek Libre Pro... it's great! It's NOT eInk, it's TFT (LCD). You really have to see it to realize this is a good thing. Check out some of the YouTube videos for this, the screen looks really clear, you can see the page clearly even though they're waving it around in the videos. EDIT: I should mention it opened epub, non-DRMed PDF just fine. The ePub could be a little sluggish to open, but PDF was fairly quick - I think it opens it in chunks, so page turning won't be as quick.
The Jetbook Lite looks great too, but needs some work on the firmware so it doesn't crash hard with rechargeables.
The Sony Reader wouldn't read the same SD card - it may be more picky about how things are laid out on the card (I pulled it from my n800 at the store).
Google for ADEPT DRM and check out the I (heart) cabbages blog post, it's really interesting. Some readers even support Adobe DRM so I could take library books out.
Baen.com Free Library rocks! Even their non-free ones are cheap, like $5
iTunes has TONS of O'Reilly and MS Press books for about $5 too, with no DRM, so even if you don't have an iPod or iPhone you can extract the epub ( they even explain how, here )
I am sure I will have a reader before the summer, or at the latest, by camping season. I'm loving ebooks so far, and I have only been using non-dedicated readers so far.

Speak not of what thou dost not know. It's true that kindle books on Amazon do have a DRM but then, right now basically every e-book sold has a DRM it's just a case of what flavor you like. Besides if I don't want amazons DRM I can just plug my kindle in to my computer and add the e-books manually from other pay sites (Or wirelessly from project Gutenberg). The only real restriction I have ever seen on an e-book from Amazon is the text to speech being disabled which isn't something I use often.

In truth the system is more like GOGs when you buy a book it downloads to your kindle and then you own it forever. The only issue would be if you deleted a book from your e-reader. In that case you could re-download it from Amazon as long as they are still publishing it.
Hey, I love physical books too. I think everyone with an e-reader does. I have walls of the damn things. So, that's the trade off. You don't get an ever-expanding monument to your literacy. But I for one am out of space to store books. So, it's either e-book or start selling some of my books, which is completely unacceptable!

I know very little about the Kindle or ebook DRM, but a quick Google suggests dark and sinister things.
http://www.geardiary.com/2009/06/21/kindlegate-confusion-abounds-regarding-kindle-download-policy/
http://www.crn.com/retail/216500680
I'm interested in what you said about adding books from other outlets. Does Amazon's software allow you to use non-Amazon books on the Kindle? That would be nice, though in the end, the problem still seems to be the prospect of switching to another vendor in the future. Saying that DRM is unavoidable doesn't really comfort me. The fact that most ebooks have it doesn't make it any less invasive.....
On a humorous note, I'm a bit entertained by this thread. GOG is certainly the last place I expected to find a defense of DRM .

Nope, there are alternatives. Baen is DRM free, O'Reilly (for computer tech stuff) is DRM-Free, Fictionwise has both DRMed and non... not including the copyright-free stuff you mentioned.

Hey, DRM is the devil's work. In fact conflicting DRMs is the biggest problem in e-book land. The trouble is the publishers are terrified of e-book readers taking off because it effectively eliminates the need for a large publisher. So they hide behind ineffective DRMs so they can negotiate with each e-book outlet. What's funny is that e-book pirates usually make their own versions often off scans that are often better than the publishers e-books (not condoning piracy).
I'm pretty sure they eliminated the book returning problem with a firmware update. Can't say for sure other than I've returned them no problem.
Here's a good article about converting files to read them on kindle
http://kindleworld.blogspot.com/2009/08/million-free-google-books-in-epub-for.html

honestly with Kindles DRM you quite simply don't really own the books, but rather rent them. And i could care less what publishers are afraid of when their solution hurts me, the PAYING customer

Actually Amazon can (and has) remove books from your kindle remotely.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html