Posted April 18, 2012

jefequeso
New User
Registered: Dec 2010
From United States

Vomiuts
Blade Master
Registered: Apr 2009
From United States
Posted April 18, 2012
I agree. I own alot of EA games and I am not wishing their demise.
But if Kickstarter games are successful in the upcoming years, it will be very simple for game developers to eliminate big game publishers, like EA, from the equation. This may not happen anytime soon but I do believe that developers avoiding big publishers will definitely tear into their bottom line. And it may be well deserved considering how they rush developers to deliver games when they are not ready and how they treat their customers with intrusive DRM systems.
But if Kickstarter games are successful in the upcoming years, it will be very simple for game developers to eliminate big game publishers, like EA, from the equation. This may not happen anytime soon but I do believe that developers avoiding big publishers will definitely tear into their bottom line. And it may be well deserved considering how they rush developers to deliver games when they are not ready and how they treat their customers with intrusive DRM systems.

wpegg
Optimus Pegg
Registered: Nov 2009
From United Kingdom
Posted April 18, 2012


Then there are the downright dirty tactics of smear stories, copyright and patent infringement lawsuits, paying off reviewers to trash the smaller companies games. I expect with the legal team behind EA, they could make life very difficult for a company if they wished, and while it would generate bad feeling amongst the likes of us, the wider world probably wouldn't hear.
Post edited April 18, 2012 by wpegg

jefequeso
New User
Registered: Dec 2010
From United States
Posted April 18, 2012

Then there are the downright dirty tactics of smear stories, copyright and patent infringement lawsuits, paying off reviewers to trash the smaller companies games. I expect with the legal team behind EA, they could make life very difficult for a company if they wished, and while it would generate bad feeling amongst the likes of us, the wider world probably wouldn't hear.

MrAlphaNumeric
Machina
Registered: Aug 2011
From United Kingdom
Posted April 18, 2012
Exactly my sentiments. It's really a shame because EA wasn't always this draconian and greed-ridden. * sigh * I miss Westwood Studios..
Post edited April 18, 2012 by MrAlphaNumeric

DCT
AEW
Registered: Mar 2011
From United States
Posted April 18, 2012



Parvateshwar
Stir-Fryday
Registered: Aug 2011
From Vatican City
Posted April 18, 2012
Even though their stock is down, they still made multi-million dollar profits last year and the year before, so they should hardly be viewed as being in irreversible decline. The question now becomes have they reached the apex and simply don't have any other place to go or is this just a bump in their continued expansion? Their mission statement, which is found below, seems unfulfilled so I'm going to assume this is just a lull. Hopefully they take some time to go over their values which I, and many others who have posted here, believe are not in line with their promise of fulfilling the potential of computing.
'We are an association of electronic artists who share a common goal. We want to fulfill the potential of personal computing.'
'We are an association of electronic artists who share a common goal. We want to fulfill the potential of personal computing.'
Post edited April 18, 2012 by Parvateshwar

Mr.Spatula
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Registered: Jun 2010
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EC-
Goodnight
Registered: May 2011
From United States
Posted April 18, 2012

Yes it is cool to hate on EA, but apparently not cool enough to stop buying their games. They aren't the only ones who deserve ire, however.

wpegg
Optimus Pegg
Registered: Nov 2009
From United Kingdom
Posted April 18, 2012

As for the second part, there's far, far too many indie game companies for them to get away with it. Maybe if it was one or two... but there's just too many for it to slip under the radar, and too many for it to be cost effective anyway.
As for my second part, it wasn't really a part, just a list of things that companies do when they play nasty. There aren't many indy devs that need playing nasty with, most are having troubles staying afloat as is. They just need to keep the upcomers like the makers of Terraria from becoming actual competitors, and keep the core market remembering that if "it doesn't have lens flare, it's not a game". This can be done more subtly than some mass war on the indies, and probably already happens.
I'd be curious to know from any indy devs - do you get pressure from the bigger labels?

Apathy1989
New User
Registered: Dec 2011
From United Kingdom
Posted April 18, 2012

I only like Ubisoft for producing Assassins Creed games, otherwise they produce bile covered in DRM. Activision produce terrible games overall. EA buy companies who make good games, then work them too the bone and cut up the product into DLC.
I look forward to them all dying. Long live independent houses like CDProjekt, CCP and Valve.

Roman5
N'wah
Registered: Oct 2010
From Latvia
Posted April 18, 2012

Krypsyn
The Anti-Hippie
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
Posted April 18, 2012

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/25/ubisoft-hopes-to-negate-the-need-for-drm-with-support-and-conten/
Maybe they are getting the right idea... or at least stopping the trend of stupidity and asshattery. Probably not... they probably just mean more 'Day 1 DLC'. Better than DRM, I suppose.
Post edited April 18, 2012 by Krypsyn

wpegg
Optimus Pegg
Registered: Nov 2009
From United Kingdom
Posted April 18, 2012
Stop milking it. By this reasoning the whole of Europe is going to hell in a handbag, most of the major UK companies will be bust in a few months (or should have gone bust long ago), and I should start learning the Chinese for "Sir, may I have more boiled rat please".
Stock prices fluctuate. Not necessarily indicative of the company's actual fortunes.
Stock prices fluctuate. Not necessarily indicative of the company's actual fortunes.
Post edited April 18, 2012 by wpegg

azah_lemur
Lurker
Registered: Sep 2010
From Poland
Posted April 18, 2012
Speaking of companies that act really stupid towards their fans: CLICK
Personally I dislike EA very much for their policies now, but what really made me mad in the past is that they practically invented the "lack of originality" in mainstream gaming and they singlehandedly destroyed many game studios.
EA devoured many smaller companies that made really good and innovative games. First they became their publisher and later they've been bought out and faded out of existence. Good example: Bullfrog and Maxis. Although lately something called "Maxis" emerged with their new Sim City game.
Which again made me mad, because while at first I got really hyped, the moment they announced that it'll be online-only and Origin-only I was really disappointed. Also I can just imagine all those "building pack" DLCs...
Ubisoft currently has one good series, Assasin's Creed, but their DRM is worst of all.
Speaking of which, check this out: CLICK while totally self-centered, he has a point :P
Personally I dislike EA very much for their policies now, but what really made me mad in the past is that they practically invented the "lack of originality" in mainstream gaming and they singlehandedly destroyed many game studios.
EA devoured many smaller companies that made really good and innovative games. First they became their publisher and later they've been bought out and faded out of existence. Good example: Bullfrog and Maxis. Although lately something called "Maxis" emerged with their new Sim City game.
Which again made me mad, because while at first I got really hyped, the moment they announced that it'll be online-only and Origin-only I was really disappointed. Also I can just imagine all those "building pack" DLCs...
Ubisoft currently has one good series, Assasin's Creed, but their DRM is worst of all.
Speaking of which, check this out: CLICK while totally self-centered, he has a point :P