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Coelocanth: I'm not sure I see where your concern is coming from. GOG's policy is pretty clear-cut:

No DRM on their games.
2 price points.

You can't compare GOG with BioWare since GOG isn't a developer and isn't owned by EA. All GOG is doing is selling games and they've set their policy on how they're willing to do that, as I noted above. So I don't see any ideology being imposed on GOG here.
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korniatm: I thought GOG and CDProject were the same thing? Like Valve and Steam?
EA publishing their games on Steam doesn't mean they own Valve, just like they don't own Gamestop or Best Buy or Amazon or any of the many other places they sell games.
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korniatm: EA functions like any big companies in any other industry: They want to make as much money as possible while spending as little as possible. I would prefer that type of ideology stay as far away from GoG as possible.
Everyone is in this to make money. GOG is in this to make money. Yes they are following certain principles, and bless them for doing so, but still the core motivation is to make money. If GOG did not make money it would not exist.

I do see what you are saying though, that EA personifies the corporate aspect to gaming. Still, they make good games a lot of the time. They certainly made a ton of great games over the course of their history. It is not some kind of surrender to sell these great games on GOG for $6 DRM free, it is a huge win for our preferences.
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korniatm: ...
EA is providing some of their most famous, most popular, and most formative (to the industry) games to which they now own the rights (though maybe they shouldn't, that's another debate); they're doing it DRM free and at a low, GOG mandated price (DK, one of the most famous games of all time, the reason people still listen to Molyneux, is only 6 bucks - the lower price) and you're complaining.

GOG signed a publisher folks said was impossible to sign... and your complaining.

Those are my thoughts.
Post edited June 02, 2011 by orcishgamer
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korniatm: True True True

I will hope for the best

I have never played any of these old EA games any of them any good?
I believe they have the rights to System Shock and System Shock 2, which are the two most wanted titles according to the wishlist. Also, a lot of other games that are great.
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Taleroth: You find out what happens to Liara even without the DLC. She went to that Asari world and ridiculously traded archeology for espionage.
Because even 500 years in the future, she knew she was no match for Indiana Jones.
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orcishgamer: GOG signed a publisher folks said was impossible to sign...
It's true, I never thought it would happen. But then, that's what I thought about Activision. Like it or not, those two publishers are currently the biggest in the industry and having them both on board makes GOG one of the big dogs. I'm sure all the other big publishers will follow suit and join up as soon as possible and that's a good thing. Besides, I want more of Origin Systems' games.

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Orryyrro: I believe they have the rights to System Shock and System Shock 2, which are the two most wanted titles...
Yes and no. In the announcement GOG said that System Shock 1 & 2 are tied up in a bit of a legal kerfuffle. Signing EA is certainly the first step in bringing them here but it's going to be a while before they can cut through all the red tape.

What GOG has done in their short time on the internet is nothing short of a miracle. EA's inclusion isn't going to change the way they do business, this can only be a good thing.
Not everything EA does I agree with or am entirely fond of, but largely their catalogue the past few years is absolutely stellar (DA2 excluded), and they've demonstrated they listen to the community on issues like DRM. So, a hell of a lot more good than harm.
Post edited June 03, 2011 by chautemoc
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GameRager: And the Liara story isn't needed to enjoy ME2, so your point is invalid.
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korniatm: Agreed but do u think Bioware would have pulled a stunt like that pre-EA? doubtful
Bioware hasn't at all been the same since EA captured them.

However, EA has not captured beloved GoG.com or CD Projekt, mate! Look at the acquisition! The games are DRM-free, at GoG's normal prices, and GoG's values aren't compromised. As the saying "Give the devil an inch, and he'll take a mile," goes, GoG hasn't given an inch.

And if you're worried about the EA games here having that EULA tag while every other game here doesn't have that tag, don't be worried. The EULA is a copy-paste job, and most of that stuff doesn't even seem enforcable if you live in a free country (ie- how are they gonna fish for data of my offline play once I log back on the internet, here w/the advent of things like firewalls & spyware destroyers? They can't legally violate my privacy either). And if you don't live in a free country, chances are EA has other things to do than to look for what you're doing w/their game in your land.

Really, GoG showing that EULA tag on their EA games is akin to a victorious army (GoG) parading the corpse of the opposition army's general (EA) on a stick on their way home.
Post edited June 03, 2011 by bladeofBG
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korniatm: (...)
Right now, I be wondering , what all of this have to GOOD OLD EA GAMES?

I don't care about their modern policies as long as their good old games remain GOOD and old.
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korniatm: ...
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orcishgamer: EA is providing some of their most famous, most popular, and most formative (to the industry) games to which they now own the rights (though maybe they shouldn't, that's another debate); they're doing it DRM free and at a low, GOG mandated price (DK, one of the most famous games of all time, the reason people still listen to Molyneux, is only 6 bucks - the lower price) and you're complaining.

GOG signed a publisher folks said was impossible to sign... and your complaining.

Those are my thoughts.
I think you are missing the point of the OP - he didn't complain, he is just worried that when you are selling your soul to the devil that the devil sooner or later will come to collect - no matter how good the deal may seem at the moment. EA is the devil and we will have to see in the coming years how much of their soul GoG have sold. If all this deal means is that we can play old EA games then that's fine but maybe we will see a slide towards more expensive games like 19.99, 29.99 or 39.99 and maybe EA will tie our GoG games to their EA Accounts or maybe we will see a mild form of DRM on some of our GoG games like 5 install limits and then 3 years from now when GoG has gotten "fat" EA will purchase GoG for 3 bill dollars and will then put DRM on ALL GoG games.
Yes I'm exaggerating here but I think it may be along these lines that the OP is concerned. I personally don't think it will be a problem as long as we are talking about very old games but not all games on GoG are very old and I think we will see lines get blurred in the future. But I could be wrong.
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orcishgamer: EA is providing some of their most famous, most popular, and most formative (to the industry) games to which they now own the rights (though maybe they shouldn't, that's another debate); they're doing it DRM free and at a low, GOG mandated price (DK, one of the most famous games of all time, the reason people still listen to Molyneux, is only 6 bucks - the lower price) and you're complaining.

GOG signed a publisher folks said was impossible to sign... and your complaining.

Those are my thoughts.
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jepsen1977: I think you are missing the point of the OP - he didn't complain, he is just worried that when you are selling your soul to the devil that the devil sooner or later will come to collect - no matter how good the deal may seem at the moment. EA is the devil and we will have to see in the coming years how much of their soul GoG have sold. If all this deal means is that we can play old EA games then that's fine but maybe we will see a slide towards more expensive games like 19.99, 29.99 or 39.99 and maybe EA will tie our GoG games to their EA Accounts or maybe we will see a mild form of DRM on some of our GoG games like 5 install limits and then 3 years from now when GoG has gotten "fat" EA will purchase GoG for 3 bill dollars and will then put DRM on ALL GoG games.
Yes I'm exaggerating here but I think it may be along these lines that the OP is concerned. I personally don't think it will be a problem as long as we are talking about very old games but not all games on GoG are very old and I think we will see lines get blurred in the future. But I could be wrong.
I don't know why anyone would think this is possible. Once again, GOG is a store, not a developer. It is not a contract in which GOG is owned or controlled by EA. If anything changed regarding their standards and practices it would be entirely under GOG's power and the result of their own choice, not any kind of EA decree because, again, they don't have that power.

Besides, if GOG were going to include DRM or raise prices to appease publishers, it would probably happen before contracts were signed, not after. EA has already agreed to GOG's terms... if there was any danger of them influencing GOG, it already passed.
Shit, I hope they offer a higher price point. I look at that as a positive and if EA persuade them to do so it would be awesome.
Thank you EA for proving my point!

It has just been announced that EA is creating a service called "EA Origin" which by my understanding is a similar service as Steam or GOG, an online library that will allow you to download games directly. And (heres the kicker) it will be the only place to download future EA titles like Star Wars: The Old Republic (F*** You Steam!)

Apparently EA is not happy enough with the 90% of the market they they control though the consoles, they need that last 10% which had been controlled by companies like Steam and GOG.

Meanwhile, CDProject and GOG (which seemed to be moving into the direction of competing with Steam with the release of the Witcher 2) have just made a deal with a company that is actively planning to steal customers from them. My long term fear was that EA would buy GOG and start "Biowaring" them but I was wrong EA is instead creating there own version of GOG and will leverage them out though exclusive titles.

So again same question as the OP, is EA really the kind of company that you want to see interacting with GOG?
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korniatm: So again same question as the OP, is EA really the kind of company that you want to see interacting with GOG?
They're a crappy company for daring to have their own digital store (which they had before anyway) while Valve and CDP are great for having their own digital stores? I don't get it.

This is the funny thing about brand loyalty. People ignore the flaws of their favorite companies and focus on the flaws of companies they dislike for whatever reason. Valve uses DRM, sells their games only through Steam, sell DLC by the shitload now for Portal 2 and TF2 but they're Valve, so this is all okay or even awesome. EA dares to do any of those things and they are the devil.
Meanwhile, CDProject and GOG (which seemed to be moving into the direction of competing with Steam with the release of the Witcher 2) have just made a deal with a company that is actively planning to steal customers from them. My long term fear was that EA would buy GOG and start "Biowaring" them but I was wrong EA is instead creating there own version of GOG and will leverage them out though exclusive titles.
You can't buy a company that is not at least 51% on the stock.

GOG is not.
EA dares to do any of those things and they are the devil.
Yeah, this is funny. And they are still buying EA games and making EA even bigger than ever :D
Post edited June 03, 2011 by keeveek