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Posted June 02, 2011
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korniatm: Linking up with EA will most likely result in 20 new classics here on GoG and northing else happening past that.
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Siannah: I have to ask: what did you expect? A change in policy while joining GoG?
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korniatm: They want to make as much money as possible while spending as little as possible. I would prefer that type of ideology stay as far away from GoG as possible.
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Siannah: Take a moment to count how many games WOULDN'T be available on GoG right now, because the studio / publisher falls into that category....
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korniatm: Yes and No, First off I am not talking about pre-orders, I am talking about DLC.
A good example there would be Civilization 5 DLC. It was clearly finished in the state it came and could be played almost forever.
For those interested in different civilizations or units you could pay or to get the DLC to change the already complete game experience.
On the other hand would be Mass Effect 2 if you want to find out what happens to Liara ( A huge character from the first game) that will be $9.99 please.
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Siannah: I'm a long time Civ-fan since the first one came out. I still haven't bought Civ 5 because of the way DLCs are handled. An additional fee for different maps / leaders? No way, waiting for that "complete" edition, sry Sid.
I still haven't used my Cerberus code to get the free DLCs for ME2. Have no intention of getting DA2 or ME3 before a GotY edition is available - since this means waiting 1 year or more, I'd probably wait even longer and get it on sale.

It's not GoG.com who has to follow some principles here for a chance of a change - it's us gamers.
Thanks for your opinion and you are right.
1st: EA is a money vampire,
2nd: I shell out over $100 for Mass Effect 2 and all the DLC
3rd: EA give me Dragon Age 2, 75% out of the box, the last quarter to be filled in though DLC

I clearly encouraged that type of behavior

PS- You should really try Civ 5 its very fun, no DLC needed
Posted June 02, 2011
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korniatm: PS- You should really try Civ 5 its very fun, no DLC needed
I have no doubt about that. Still, for me it falls into the same pit DA / ME does. And I'll have as much fun with it in 2 years, as I would have now.
Posted June 02, 2011
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korniatm: This tread started to get side tracked on Liara.
My point is that I genuinely feel that the people who work at GOG love games and the people at EA love money and are very powerful. I am not a huge fan of them interacting with each other.
If EA believes that there is money to be made by releasing their back catalogue, they will do it, and we all want them to do it. Why shouldn't GOG get a piece of those profits, and moreover, why wouldn't we want those titles to get the GOG de-hassle treatment?
Posted June 02, 2011
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korniatm: But when I logged on to "the big announcement" I was slightly perturbed. EA functions like any big companies in any other industry: They want to make as much money as possible while spending as little as possible. I would prefer that type of ideology stay as far away from GoG as possible.
If I was sitting on a back catalogue the size of EA's, and some small Polish company wanted to make my games compatible with modern operating systems and sell them worldwide for no up-front fee (except a percentage of the sales once the work is done), I would most definitely enter negotiations with them. It's quite literally money for nothing. I'd also negotiate a way to get these versions on other digital distributors, for even more money for no work.

My point is, exploiting back catalogues in services such as GOG is one of the quickest, easiest and cheapest ways to make money.
Post edited June 02, 2011 by DelusionsBeta
Posted June 02, 2011
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korniatm: PS-I believe a saw Rick Asherton do a live "rickroll" at the Macy day parade, if anyone understands that example...
Roll??? GOGroll . . . =)
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Posted June 02, 2011
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korniatm: This tread started to get side tracked on Liara.
My point is that I genuinely feel that the people who work at GOG love games and the people at EA love money and are very powerful. I am not a huge fan of them interacting with each other.
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Mentalepsy: If EA believes that there is money to be made by releasing their back catalogue, they will do it, and we all want them to do it. Why shouldn't GOG get a piece of those profits, and moreover, why wouldn't we want those titles to get the GOG de-hassle treatment?
I guess I am just weary because I believed that Bioware would never try to pawn off crappy corporate games to the old school RPG crowd and here we are.
Posted June 02, 2011
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korniatm: This tread started to get side tracked on Liara.
My point is that I genuinely feel that the people who work at GOG love games and the people at EA love money and are very powerful. I am not a huge fan of them interacting with each other.

PS-I believe a saw Rick Asherton do a live "rickroll" at the Macy day parade, if anyone understands that example...
Dude, don't be worried...Gog is in control here...not EA. ;)
Posted June 02, 2011
Musicians always talk out "selling out" or going "mainstream", I guess I am making a similar claim here
Posted June 02, 2011
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Mentalepsy: If EA believes that there is money to be made by releasing their back catalogue, they will do it, and we all want them to do it. Why shouldn't GOG get a piece of those profits, and moreover, why wouldn't we want those titles to get the GOG de-hassle treatment?
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korniatm: I guess I am just weary because I believed that Bioware would never try to pawn off crappy corporate games to the old school RPG crowd and here we are.
Bioware's level of contact with EA in no way mirror's GOG's level of contact with EA.
Posted June 02, 2011
True True True

I will hope for the best

I have never played any of these old EA games any of them any good?
Posted June 02, 2011
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korniatm: Musicians always talk out "selling out" or going "mainstream", I guess I am making a similar claim here
And it's really, really silly because GOG was already partnered with Activision and Ubisoft long before this, one of which is larger than EA and the other has far worse DRM practices.

Stop freaking out just because you're seeing EA. GOG is a store that distributes EAs games, not a developer whose practices are controlled by them.
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korniatm: True True True

I will hope for the best

I have never played any of these old EA games any of them any good?
They're among the best games of all time. EA got where they got for a reason: absorbing the best talent the industry ever had. There's a reason everyone was so excited about this happening, because now we get Wing Commander and Ultima and Alpha Centauri and Magic Carpet and Crusader and Dungeon Keeper and and and.
Post edited June 02, 2011 by sethsez
Posted June 02, 2011
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korniatm: But when I logged on to "the big announcement" I was slightly perturbed. EA functions like any big companies in any other industry: They want to make as much money as possible while spending as little as possible. I would prefer that type of ideology stay as far away from GoG as possible.

Would love to hear others thoughts
I'm not sure I see where your concern is coming from. GOG's policy is pretty clear-cut:

No DRM on their games.
2 price points.

You can't compare GOG with BioWare since GOG isn't a developer and isn't owned by EA. All GOG is doing is selling games and they've set their policy on how they're willing to do that, as I noted above. So I don't see any ideology being imposed on GOG here.
Posted June 02, 2011
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korniatm: But when I logged on to "the big announcement" I was slightly perturbed. EA functions like any big companies in any other industry: They want to make as much money as possible while spending as little as possible. I would prefer that type of ideology stay as far away from GoG as possible.

Would love to hear others thoughts
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Coelocanth: I'm not sure I see where your concern is coming from. GOG's policy is pretty clear-cut:

No DRM on their games.
2 price points.

You can't compare GOG with BioWare since GOG isn't a developer and isn't owned by EA. All GOG is doing is selling games and they've set their policy on how they're willing to do that, as I noted above. So I don't see any ideology being imposed on GOG here.
I thought GOG and CDProject were the same thing? Like Valve and Steam?
Posted June 02, 2011
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korniatm: I thought GOG and CDProject were the same thing? Like Valve and Steam?
Well sort of ... but GOG is not being bought by EA, in fact all GOG is doing is getting from EA the rights to sell EA games here - CD Projekt Red, the game developer, is not using EA as their publisher. No one is being bough or sold. Valve isn't owned by EA because Steam sells EA games.
Post edited June 02, 2011 by crazy_dave
Posted June 02, 2011
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korniatm: I thought GOG and CDProject were the same thing? Like Valve and Steam?
CD Projekt RED (developer/studio) and GOG (DD store, duh) are both subsidaries of CD Projekt (publisher), which in turn is owned by Optimus S.A. (or something like that...).
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