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Yep, you read the title right, according to EA's own forums, if you get banned from the forums, you get banned from the game.
Of course, there's an easy work around, make a master account with no games! Anyway, this has to be the most ridiculous form of DRM ever. Sure, it would be wonderful if everyone played nice, but is EA the freakin' morals police over here?
I'd like to rip off their heads and poop down their necks. lol.
(it's a duke nukem misquote, because cursing is not allowed on teh forums)
The original post was a mistake and this is not actually the case.
Suffice to say, when we take action on someone on our C&C forums here, for any number of ToS breaking reasons, it does not impact your C&C game account or any other EA Game Account connected to your forum name.

Which is good i suppose, though people were really taking it way out of proportion.. To get such a ban you would certainly have had to do something extreme, such as a death threat or spew racist garbage. In which case, who cares if some moron cant play his game.
You might want to speak with Aaron Kaufman because he's gone on record saying that your account could be banned, and that it's basically upto a mod to decide your fate.
the post for eaapoc clarified statement can be found here (the quote that chaotix posted.)
so, you won't be banned from your games if you are banned from the forums. despite what others may think, i don't believe that it's good policy to ban paying customers from their games just because of things they have posted on forums, no matter how vile.
furthermore, that would have a serious chilling effect on free speech, and it's likely unconstitutional (in the US.)
Ah yes, he does say it's a mistake..
but clearly the man had no issues with doing it.
eaapoc is kaufman, and he already said he was wrong. and EA corporate told shack news that being banned from the forums is separate from being banned from a game.
i don't know of any instances of kaufman actually banning anyone from the forums, and thus, from their games.
i'm not trying to defend EA, and this little flap on kaufman's part is quite amusing to me, considering all the other shit they're been in lately.
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chaotix: The original post was a mistake and this is not actually the case.
Suffice to say, when we take action on someone on our C&C forums here, for any number of ToS breaking reasons, it does not impact your C&C game account or any other EA Game Account connected to your forum name.

Hmmmm, the original post was quite clear and not ambiguous in any way. Banned in forums, banned from games. Back peddling, instead of a mistake, maybe? Dunno, sometimes I am too cynical. But then...
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chaotix: Which is good i suppose, though people were really taking it way out of proportion.. To get such a ban you would certainly have had to do something extreme, such as a death threat or spew racist garbage. In which case, who cares if some moron cant play his game.

...I was on the UBI forums when you could get banned for even hinting dissatisfaction with the Starforce DRM. No YELLING, no threats or slurs, just attempting polite discourse. So don't think any forum can't/won't ban you for anything that they so choose to. It can happen.
Post edited October 31, 2008 by SkullCowboy
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illegalyouth: the post for eaapoc clarified statement can be found here (the quote that chaotix posted.)
so, you won't be banned from your games if you are banned from the forums. despite what others may think, i don't believe that it's good policy to ban paying customers from their games just because of things they have posted on forums, no matter how vile.
furthermore, that would have a serious chilling effect on free speech, and it's likely unconstitutional (in the US.)

agreed on the substance of your post.
but aren't you completely misunderstanding the concept of free speech (as defined in the US)?
The free speech amendment says that THE GOVERNMENT should make no laws to prevent free speech. It has no relevance at all to actions by private companies, or on private property.
EA is perfectly free to stop people saying whatever they want on their servers. However the government can't make a LAW stopping people saying what they want.
Ok. please return to original discussion...
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soulgrindr: agreed on the substance of your post.
but aren't you completely misunderstanding the concept of free speech (as defined in the US)?
The free speech amendment says that THE GOVERNMENT should make no laws to prevent free speech. It has no relevance at all to actions by private companies, or on private property.
EA is perfectly free to stop people saying whatever they want on their servers. However the government can't make a LAW stopping people saying what they want.
Ok. please return to original discussion...

Thanks Soulgrindr, that's one of my favorite points to make, but the counter-point would be, is that if they ever had to go to court over it, they'd get canned because a EULA or TOS cannot infringe on someones personal (God given, as they say) rights.
NOTE:
Slight clarification, I am not necessarily making humor at the United States legal process or Christianity, nor do I support Christianity, I just think it's a little awkward that they would separate church and state, but when you go to court you swear on a Bible and discuss your 'God given rights.'
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soulgrindr: agreed on the substance of your post.
but aren't you completely misunderstanding the concept of free speech (as defined in the US)?
The free speech amendment says that THE GOVERNMENT should make no laws to prevent free speech. It has no relevance at all to actions by private companies, or on private property.
EA is perfectly free to stop people saying whatever they want on their servers. However the government can't make a LAW stopping people saying what they want.
Ok. please return to original discussion...

yes, i do. which is exactly why i said that such a policy would have a serious chilling effect. i thought it was perfectly clear that i don't agree with such a policy; however, i thought i also made it clear that EA has no such policy.
EDIT: oops. read your post too fast. so it may not be unconstitutional, but it would still have a chilling effect.
EDIT 2: on second thought, the internet is a public domain, and was created with public funds. perhaps there is a case here that this type of behavior runs afoul of the first amendment.
Post edited October 31, 2008 by illegalyouth
You don't have to swear on a bible if you don't wish to.
And if it went to court the complainant would lose. Free speech, as noted, would not apply in that situation, as it's a private domain (owned by the game company).
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soulgrindr: agreed on the substance of your post.
but aren't you completely misunderstanding the concept of free speech (as defined in the US)?
The free speech amendment says that THE GOVERNMENT should make no laws to prevent free speech. It has no relevance at all to actions by private companies, or on private property.
EA is perfectly free to stop people saying whatever they want on their servers. However the government can't make a LAW stopping people saying what they want.
Ok. please return to original discussion...
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Weclock: Thanks Soulgrindr, that's one of my favorite points to make, but the counter-point would be, is that if they ever had to go to court over it, they'd get canned because a EULA or TOS cannot infringe on someones personal (God given, as they say) rights.
NOTE:
Slight clarification, I am not necessarily making humor at the United States legal process or Christianity, nor do I support Christianity, I just think it's a little awkward that they would separate church and state, but when you go to court you swear on a Bible and discuss your 'God given rights.'

One of the great things about the US is that, within certain limits, you can say just about anything you want. Check out some KKK, Neo-Nazi, or Christian Identity sites if you don't believe me. And I agree with this right (the right to say it, not what they say). Main reason being it lets you know just who the crazies are.
But on a privately owned computer system, you have NO SUCH RIGHTS. The owners of that system can legally censor, control and restrict what you do, what you say, etc, in whatever way they so choose. You agree to this when you join, and unlike a software EULA, you agree to it BEFORE you 'open the box'.
if anyone is further interested, here's a pretty good article in USA today concerning first amendment rights online.
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illegalyouth: if anyone is further interested, here's a pretty good article in USA today concerning first amendment rights online.

Thanks for the link. Good article.
Thanks for the link, +1 to your post.