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grim was right. That Lazarus is pretty nice.
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mystikmind2000: Some interesting suggestions so far, thank you!

I now remember why i got into DS2 and became such a big fan.... because i was able to do co-operative multiplayer with my wife ----- (drum roll) with only one game copy!!! Hallelujah (fanfare and fireworks)!!! Just getting that right is too big an ask for most game companies it would seem.

don't know if that works for the Steam version, i would think not? So better to find the disk version?
Am pretty sure steam won't let you copy it unless you use a bypass method to skip the client, better find some .iso's on the internet if that won't get you in trouble, you already paid for the game anyway so i don't see a problem.
Post edited February 24, 2014 by nadenitza
Maybe not a popular opinion, but I like Dungeon Siege 2 much better than Dungeon Siege 1. Haven't tried DS3 yet, but I hear it's not that special? That would make DS2 the best of the series then, from my point of view. I like that it plays like a real fast-paced action RPG, while DS1 seemed to me like a weird and comparatively slow mix of turn-based and real time combat, maybe a bit similar to Neverwinter Nights (if you subtract all the good things about the latter :P). The combats felt neither that tactical nor like real action, just slow, and I became bored very quickly. DS2 on the other hand was fun, I like the graphics, the pre-designed areas, the linearity combined with a bit of exploration, the party play, feeding items to the pets, etc. My only gripe would be that it's a bit long. I still haven't finished it, I'm halfway through Act 2 and now it gets more and more repetitive, but that's an issue I have with almost all action RPGs - I haven't finished Diablo 2 either ...
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Leroux: Maybe not a popular opinion, but I like Dungeon Siege 2 much better than Dungeon Siege 1. Haven't tried DS3 yet, but I hear it's not that special? That would make DS2 the best of the series then, from my point of view. I like that it plays like a real fast-paced action RPG, while DS1 seemed to me like a weird and comparatively slow mix of turn-based and real time combat, maybe a bit similar to Neverwinter Nights (if you subtract all the good things about the latter :P). The combats felt neither that tactical nor like real action, just slow, and I became bored very quickly. DS2 on the other hand was fun, I like the graphics, the pre-designed areas, the linearity combined with a bit of exploration, the party play, feeding items to the pets, etc. My only gripe would be that it's a bit long. I still haven't finished it, I'm halfway through Act 2 and now it gets more and more repetitive, but that's an issue I have with almost all action RPGs - I haven't finished Diablo 2 either ...
I did not like DS3 because of the controls, and i will give special congratulations to how idiot they made it for picking up loot,,, excuse me while i stick my hand in a blender, because that's how dumb i have to be to make this point. But if your the kind of person who adapts well to oddities in the UI and game controls then you should like DS3
DS2 was great. I have not had the chance to play DS3. I wanted to replay DS2, but I couldn't find a tiny slip of paper with the CD-key.

Sucks.
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ShadowWulfe: DS2 was great. I have not had the chance to play DS3. I wanted to replay DS2, but I couldn't find a tiny slip of paper with the CD-key.

Sucks.
If you want i can five you a key to try installing, i keep in on a notepad for reference :P

dunno if it will work tho
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nadenitza:
Thanks! I just hope I brought it with me when I moved. I had the collector's edition with eh expansion. Can't remember if it installs and THEN asks for the key or if it keys then installs. I may or may not have an installing my desktop.
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Niggles: Steam versions don't apparently come with the expansion(s)....
^This is easily the biggest reason why I wouldn't buy digital copies of the games just yet. It seems like such a silly omission...
As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I knew nothing of these, and went to the Steam page and was very much interested, and so I looked around at all the sites I knew to look, and the best deal I could find ended up being on Steam. I got all three, including the dlc for 3, for $19.99 and I am having a blast with 1. I don't know how I missed these, but I've been at 1 now for about 5 hours and it's 3:33 in the morning..... so, yeah, that kind of effect on me.
I loved DS2 with an add-on, I've completed all quests while playing it few years ago. I'd definitely buy that one when it shows up.
I've only played DS1 and I quite enjoyed it.
Graphic and music are very good for the time, gameplay is fun, but not exactly "advanced".
7.4/10

Anyone who wants to try it must know these things beforehand:
- it's an action "rpg" with 10% story and 90% grinding with a ton of items. Quite fun, if you accept this, though.
- choose LoA standalone expansion, instead of the base game (it also contains the base map).
- understand the weird level system and carefully plan your heroes accordingly (long story here. Anyway, avoid too much dex).
- don't play on hard, it's useless as you get less experience and same loot as normal.
- incredibly, you'll need a mod (dsloam) to transfer your party between different adventures.

P.S: did DS2 improve on story and item\level planning?
Post edited February 25, 2014 by phaolo
I always loved the Dungeon Siege 2 trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUz6LSbTaf4

I haven't yet played the DS games though, have them already.
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mystikmind2000: I have played Neverwinter nights, and i loved that game but the re-playability is spoiled by the pre set loot (i do not like going to the same spots and knowing what i will find there each new game). And such a shame they went to such lengths with the complexity of unit development then its all wasted because they don't give players enough in game information to truly understand it.
Btw, regarding replayability, have you ever tried to play NWN community modules? You know there's tons of them for free, right? Even if you're not interested in the story-telling stuff, maybe the Persistent World modules could be for you, because they often have random loot, too.

Then again, are you sure that the loot in the official NWN campaign is pre-set? I think it's randomized by item categories, but you may be right in that this only affects the worthless junk while more powerful story items and rewards are pre-set. In any case, the engine allows for completely randomized treasure, so it's all up to the authors, and other, fan-made modules might be more suited to your taste.

Being a D&D game, the rules of NWN are rather complicated and not sufficiently explained, that's true, but you don't really need to know all the rules to enjoy the game, and if you want to understand it better and have any questions about it, the community is usually very helpful, both in-game if you play multiplayer or on the according forums.
DS1 is an old favorite of mine. A grind-fest for sure, but done quite well. I put more hours into it than I care to admit. I haven't tried the Ultima V mod yet, but probably will soon.

I tried DS2 once a long time ago, but I got frustrated by the death system, probably because I just didn't understand it. I need to read up on how it works and give it another go. Hadn't thought of it in quite some time, but reading through this thread made me really want to give DS2 another go.

I played about 20 minutes into DS3 and just couldn't get into it. I can't say there was anything particularly bad about it, it just didn't catch my attention for some reason. I'll surely give it another chance one day as well, though not before DS2.
Too bad that the expansions of DS1 and DS2 are nowhere to be found lately (except physical copies - but I want no hassle with that).