i had a feeling for this game it would end up this way

What about Duke Begins, now, with DNF doing bad at reviews?

cancelled for real?

Despite what certain people around here think, I'm not going to dismiss it because you're criticizing the game.

So far most, well nearly all the puzzles, have been pretty standard from a while back. Definitely could have been innovative had the game been released earlier, but that one involving the truck early on stands out. I don't recall ever having seen a puzzle like that in an FPS. I'm curious as to why they had that little opening, but the puzzle itself was something that I'd like to see developers take up.

I'm not going to call the method of narrative innovative there even though I haven't personally seen it anywhere else, mainly because I know from second hand accounts that Half LIfe did that first.

I could be wrong, but I don't recall anybody else doing that rail car type puzzle. I know some games have had driving components. I remember trying to run Duke down in a Quake mod well over a decade ago, but I can't recall ever having heard of a game that actually lets you ride around in a mine car.

Like I said, there's definitely some innovation. I didn't mean to imply that there was a lot of innovation going on. Most of the innovation that went into the game is no longer innovative in large part due to the game taking so long to release that other studios caught up. (Yes I know I'm making assumptions, I have no idea when some of these ideas were devised, much less implemented) The style of narrative is a good example of that. The game was in production since before Half-Life came out, and I have no idea who had and implemented the in game scripted events as a method of conveying the plot first.

Despite what a lot of people think, I do think that if they decide to do it, I do think there's a lot here that they could build on to make a GOTY worthy game. Obviously this game doesn't deserve to win GOTY, well on the game itself perhaps based upon actually releasing it somebody will hand it one. But, I've found it to be significantly less frustrating to play than FO3, in main part due to the fact that it doesn't randomly crash every few minutes.

In my view, if they're smart they'll take the mechanics they have and quickly get started on a sequel, where they address the legitimate complaints about the ueber linear levels, plot and how antiquated some of the puzzles are. They've got the ingredients there to make a potential GOTY winner, they just haven't put them together in a way that would justify tha
They better not. As I posted right after you, I do believe that they have all the elements and mechanics necessary to turn out a GOTY worth game, and if they start working on it, like right now, they could take the work that they've finished and turn out something that's going to be pretty mind blowing.

Personally, I love the game so far, but there's a lot of things which ought to have been fixed prior to release, which had to be ignored sot hat it would actually be released. Taking the engine and the enhancements they made to it, the should be able to create better level designs, include more of the sorts of puzzles that require the use of things like that toy car and make it something that has broader appeal.

Also, give us the jet pack in single player.
Do you have a link for the review that they posted? It's going to be hard to say until we have a list of reviewers that are blacklisted whether or not this is a reasonable response, but having read a few of the "reviews" where the reviewer wasn't reviewing so much as posting a ranting editorial, I can understand a few of those reviewers being black listed for it.

It's not helpful to anybody to have crap like that joystiq review being passed off as a review. I don't personally see anything wrong with it being posted as an editorial, but calling it a review is pretty dishonest. I won't personally be reading any of their reviews in the future if they're journalistic integrity is that low. The industry has low enough standards as it is, so that's saying a lot.

Destructoid 3/10

Agreed. Considering what games get in the upper 90 percent these days, I am quite happy being in the *non spoon fed* minority.

Thanks. Like I said, some of the reviewers definitely deserve it for editorializing rather than reviewing, but I'd like to see whom ends up being blacklisted before I jump to too many conclusions. But, talk of blacklisting at this stage doesn't sound good.

EDIT: OK, I see the problem with that one. It's the sort of crap reviews that I was having to wade through to decide whether or not I wanted to play. So much of that review is based wholly upon the opinion of the reviewer. Perhaps it would be a more meaningful review if I knew who he was, but as it stands there's very little about this review that I feel I can trust.

The criticisms of the multiplayer, are specific enough that I feel that I can trust that, but most of the rest of the "review" is wrapped up in his might ego. Had he wrote the rest of the review as well as the portion about multiplayer, I doubt that the site would be in risk of being blacklisted.

Hey Some alot of the games earned the upper 90 percents examples The witcher 2, Mass Effect 2, Red Dead Redemption etc
but others,,, i wouldn't say any names but yea.....
You know what i mean ?

Here's a post I found on phreakindee Youtube video "Duke Nukem Series Retrospective - LGR"

I really hope you didn't waste $60 of your hard-earned cash on DNF phreakindee. From what I've heard so far, you're in for quite a letdown.
trafficjam10 10 hours ago

@trafficjam10 Nope! I "wasted" $100 on the BOS Edition! :D

And actually, I'm only a few levels from the end of the game. I've found it hard to put down, it's actually really freaking fun.
phreakindee 9 hours ago

I stand corrected. 3/10 was Eurogamer.

Hmm...that third DLC pack sounds cool and all with the 15 more maps.....will they be added to the end of the current ones in terms of storyline? Or just random levels?

Also I wonder what a "n00b" tube weapon is. :\

Noobtube is IIRC underslung grenade launcher (I think it's from Modern Warfare 2).

I believe the term predates MW2, but it's usually reserved for overpowered grenade launchers, yeah.

Thanks. I got to the Duke Cave gun platform.....it's been good so far, even if the ducts were dark as shite.

Just did the mothership battle like 5 times to see all the stuff I could shoot and what happened until the end. It seems good so far.