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Who will owns the rights ?
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ne_zavarj: ... Who will owns the rights ?
Whoever buys them during liquidation.

What will happen to the half finished games: New adventures of Sherlock Holmes, Le Tour de France 2012, Game of Thrones SoIaF, Realms of Ancient War, ...

edit: Actually, on second thought, chance for GOG!! Go for it. You just have to travel to Hamburg, take all their hard discs with you and be done. Easy.
Post edited April 30, 2012 by Trilarion
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ne_zavarj: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=472244

Who will owns the rights ?
They'll most likely revert to the devs
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ne_zavarj: ... Who will owns the rights ?
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Trilarion: Whoever buys them.

What will happen to the half finished games: New adventures of Sherlock Holmes, Le Tour de France 2012, Game of Thrones SoIaF, Realms of Ancient War, ...
A lot will depend on who owns or who ends up owning the game rights and IP/trademarks. If the games are owned by teh developers and the publisher is just footing the development bill then, provided they can secure another publisher, the games shouldn't be in too much trouble (and if they are fairly far along the product cycle could represent a low investment high reward for a new publisher).
If the games are less finished and require more investment that might be a concern for other publishers.

If the publisher (DTP) owns the game rights then the developers might be a little unsettled to say the least - if the rights are sold on the developers could end up without a publisher or with one who does not want to complete that product - leaving them with useless game code.


Sadly this is part of the nature of the gaming world - fewer are the publishers and developers that remain stable in this market.
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Trilarion: edit: Actually, on second thought, chance for GOG!! Go for it.
GoG's a distributor not a publisher however - its totally not in their market area to bring a new title to release nor to invest in the development of a new title.
GoG's parent company might be in a position to do so - though remember whilst they are big popularity wise they are still fairly small (from what I recall) in the world - they might simply lack the proper resources (either to invest or to make their investment worthwhile for the developers).
Post edited April 30, 2012 by overread
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ne_zavarj: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=472244

Who will owns the rights ?
Good riddance. They were also involved in the piracy scams (like so many german companies). They get neither pittance nor respect from me. Let's just hope Kalypso is the next to go.

And insolvency doesn't automatically mean that they will go down under. There have been several german companies who went through an insolvency successful. But that is a very, very small chance.

The publishing rights will either be sold off, or be reverted back to the IP holders. Depending on the publishing contract.
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SimonG: Good riddance. They were also involved in the piracy scams (like so many german companies). They get neither pittance nor respect from me. Let's just hope Kalypso is the next to go.
Piracy scams?

All I know of Kalypso is that they made the King Arthur series and I like those games*

*well the first I can't play the second till I upgrade my computer
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overread: Piracy scams?
Sending out bills to "suspected pirates" and sending them threatening letters with fake legal costs. Abusing the legal system by using legal loopholes and all that. There have been several threads about it when it was revealed that CDP did the same (they stopped just as a judgement came that made those shakedowns less profitable).
Ow, lol. They were Saturday's 'Daily Deal on Steam. The Cursed Crusade. A last minute sale then.
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overread: All I know of Kalypso is that they made the King Arthur series and I like those games*
Neocore , Paradox ?
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gameon: ...
Whats the piracy scam stuff about?
SimonG personally dislikes companies sending nice letters to customers asking them for a humble fee for kind of evidence that some of the IP adresses they shared also occured during dubious downloads. Or so, I suppose.
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overread: Piracy scams?
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SimonG: Sending out bills to "suspected pirates" and sending them threatening letters with fake legal costs. Abusing the legal system by using legal loopholes and all that. There have been several threads about it when it was revealed that CDP did the same (they stopped just as a judgement came that made those shakedowns less profitable).
Oh those - you know I recall that in most of those threads the only sites with info and complaints were pirate websites ;)

Asides it wasn't so much a scam, but an attempt by companies to protect their copyrighted software. Maybe ill thought out long term, but certainly not a scam in the traditional sense,
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overread: All I know of Kalypso is that they made the King Arthur series and I like those games*
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ne_zavarj: Neocore , Paradox ?
Wait I might have mixed up my companies here.............
Darn it now I gotta google Kalypso as I'm sure I've played games by them
Post edited April 30, 2012 by overread
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gameon: ...
Whats the piracy scam stuff about?
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Trilarion: SimonG personally dislikes companies sending nice letters to customers asking them for a humble fee for kind of evidence that some of the IP adresses they shared also occured during dubious downloads. Or so, I suppose.
I disagree with the exploitation of a legal system I very much like and respect. And so do our lawmakers who will (or already have) made a bill that will stop those cases. That together with recent judgements will finally bring an end to those dispecable practises.
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overread: Oh those - you know I recall that in most of those threads the only sites with info and complaints were pirate websites ;)
Well, you could call the german judges assosiation a "piracy website" ;-).

I won't go into this again, but it is interesting that IP holders are approached by lawyers and not the other way around, that should make it obvious how much of it is really "ip protection".
Post edited April 30, 2012 by SimonG
I think we already have many piracy themed discussion on the forum .
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overread: Piracy scams?
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SimonG: Sending out bills to "suspected pirates" and sending them threatening letters with fake legal costs. Abusing the legal system by using legal loopholes and all that. There have been several threads about it when it was revealed that CDP did the same (they stopped just as a judgement came that made those shakedowns less profitable).
So, the problem is that they employ lawyers and make use of them. Those cads, what's next, using accountants to do their taxes.

Complaining about what CDP did and then complaining that the companies are using loopholes really implies that companies shouldn't be able to protect themselves.

The issue of whether or not these people did anything wrong being a completely different issue.
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Trilarion: SimonG personally dislikes companies sending nice letters to customers asking them for a humble fee for kind of evidence that some of the IP adresses they shared also occured during dubious downloads. Or so, I suppose.
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gameon: That actually makes sense, to let pirates pay the costs back, instead of being sent to court or something. It would save the courts time for more serious crimes, and also give people a second chance....
No it wouldn't, civil affairs aren't handled using the same courts as the criminal ones are typically. It depends a bit where you are, but civil cases have their own resources to draw upon.
Post edited April 30, 2012 by hedwards
*COUGH* TO GET US BACK ON TOPIC...

As I said in most cases rights will revert to devs IF the company is dissolved as most games are dev'd on an advance, they will have to repay costs to the creditors which is often done by... auctioning off the publishing rights as part of the publishers sale...