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GhostwriterDoF: I have the original physical discs for Red Alert 2 and Tiberian Sun plus expansions (will all the old patches)and can't install them on new systems...

Generals and Zero Hour does install and run on new 64 bit systems from the old physical discs... :/
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pds41: Have you tried any of these? http://www.cncnz.com/hosted-projects/command-patch/

I know it says First Decade patch, but I'd have thought they would be compatible with original installers.
Yes, I did actually see those patches but since I don’t have the First Decade I just got the Ultimate Collection, since it was simpler. Ordered the Physical disc too for the UC, and still had to download all the games anyway, though I did get a nice physical soundtrack disc, heh!

I had Origin anyway for Mass Effect 3 and Pinnacle Station for ME1... It looked kind of bare with just two items in there.

On the brighter side, the games do run flawlessly on my 64bit system and support more resolutions. CnC 3 Tibarian Wars turned out to be better than I was expecting so I might download CnC 4 just to fiddle with out of curiosity. :)
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Licurg: Ok, so pirated versions it is...
Alternatively, you could buy The First Decade collection, which contains all the C&C games up to and including Generals and Zero Hour. It's what I did.
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Licurg: Ok, so pirated versions it is...
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Gandos: Alternatively, you could buy The First Decade collection, which contains all the C&C games up to and including Generals and Zero Hour. It's what I did.
Is the DRM situation better ?
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wolfsite: the games have been worked on so they will run on modern systems
No they haven't.
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wolfsite: so you won't need to go around online looking for a fan patch or mod to get them working.
Yes you will.
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Licurg: Is the DRM situation better ?
None of the games in First Decade have online DRM. They do require the original serials though, which are all printed on the back of the manual and have to be entered one by one. But it's certainly an improvement. No C&C4 for obvious reasons.

I did have an interesting situation with my Red Alert 2 serial, which apparently was invalid. Nothing a keygen couldn't solve though.
Post edited February 24, 2014 by jamyskis
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wolfsite: the games have been worked on so they will run on modern systems
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jamyskis: No they haven't.
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wolfsite: so you won't need to go around online looking for a fan patch or mod to get them working.
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jamyskis: Yes you will.
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Licurg: Is the DRM situation better ?
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jamyskis: None of the games in First Decade have online DRM. They do require the original serials though, which are all printed on the back of the manual and have to be entered one by one. But it's certainly an improvement. No C&C4 for obvious reasons.

I did have an interesting situation with my Red Alert 2 serial, which apparently was invalid. Nothing a keygen couldn't solve though.
I am curious as to why you broke my original post and took it out of context as I was referring to the Ultimate Collection which is the most recent release and does require Origin.

Plus I have used the version in the Ultimate Collection, they have been worked on to run on modern OS's such as 7
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wolfsite: I am curious as to why you broke my original post and took it out of context as I was referring to the Ultimate Collection which is the most recent release and does require Origin.
I know you were referring to that, and yes, I was referring to the Ultimate Collection on Origin too. Most, if not all, of the games in the Ultimate Collection require the same fixes as the First Decade versions.

Aside from finding EA's blatant lying about this deplorable, I actually have no real opinion about this. The Ultimate Collection provides a relatively easy way to get all of the C&C games, and they can be fixed. If people can put up with Origin, it's certainly an option to consider.

I'm not sure why you'd defend the Ultimate Collection specifically like this unless you were trying to somehow get people onto Origin.

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Elenarie: Guys, you should check out TPB and Rutracker for some free GOGs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuDwUnhwPAk
Post edited February 25, 2014 by jamyskis
Christ I'd love for GOG to get these classics.
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jamyskis: ...
You should tell that to the opener of this thread.
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wolfsite: I am curious as to why you broke my original post and took it out of context as I was referring to the Ultimate Collection which is the most recent release and does require Origin.
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jamyskis: I know you were referring to that, and yes, I was referring to the Ultimate Collection on Origin too. Most, if not all, of the games in the Ultimate Collection require the same fixes as the First Decade versions.

Aside from finding EA's blatant lying about this deplorable, I actually have no real opinion about this. The Ultimate Collection provides a relatively easy way to get all of the C&C games, and they can be fixed. If people can put up with Origin, it's certainly an option to consider.

I'm not sure why you'd defend the Ultimate Collection specifically like this unless you were trying to somehow get people onto Origin.

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Elenarie: Guys, you should check out TPB and Rutracker for some free GOGs.
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jamyskis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuDwUnhwPAk
Again you are assuming things, please do not do this. The original post you made you deleted and broke up my original post which, to people who did not read it, made it appear I was implying things I did not say. I do have the Ultimate Collection and I have been able to run it without any patches that were released for the First Decade set so from my perspective they work fine thus, from my perspective, EA was not lying.
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jamyskis: ...
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Elenarie: You should tell that to the opener of this thread.
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Licurg: Ok, so pirated versions it is...
This.
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Licurg: Ok, so pirated versions it is...
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Elenarie: This.
I'm not gonna pay to be pissed on.... If they treat their customers like shit, they should expect their customers to treat them in kind .
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Licurg: I'm not gonna pay to be pissed on.... If they treat their customers like shit, they should expect their customers to treat them in kind .
One thing I'll say about Origin is it has worked without issue for me. The store leaves a lot to be desired as far as ease of use and layout (and their sales are a bit of a joke), but the times when my internet connection has dropped hasn't been a problem. If I was playing an Origin-required game, Origin just automatically dropped into off-line mode without interrupting the game at all. I've had less issues with Origin than Steam. For what that's worth. :)
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Licurg: ...
Then you shouldn't be a shithole and gain illegal access to what's not yours. Would be lovely if you get robbed in turn, then you'll see that it is not fun.
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wolfsite: Again you are assuming things, please do not do this. The original post you made you deleted and broke up my original post which, to people who did not read it, made it appear I was implying things I did not say. I do have the Ultimate Collection and I have been able to run it without any patches that were released for the First Decade set so from my perspective they work fine thus, from my perspective, EA was not lying.
Dude, what the fuck is your problem?

I did not delete anything, nor did I take anything out of context. It was perfectly clear from the context that The Ultimate Collection was meant as this entire thread is about the Ultimate Collection. Your post was a whole two lines, and the only thing I removed was the comment about it needing Origin because it was irrelevant in this case.

If it works perfectly without fixes for you, fine, but I can point you to dozens of other threads of people who it did not work for. I'm not making any claims about whether or not it is worth it, I'm not making any claims about EA or whatever. I am simply stating that the game is broken in its delivered state and there are easy fixes for it. It's a relatively uncontroversial statement and I'm not sure why you'd kick up a stink about it other than if you were some kind of EA shill.