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Faithful: I also bought Eschalon Book 1 as it too is a great game and also DRM free.
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Narakir: I'm interested about this one, how's the story actually ? The few reviews I was able to find said that it was an average-good game worth trying but nothing spectacular on any aspects (even for old RPGs fans).

The story is nothing spectacular, but it was still good enough to drive the game forward and keep me interested to the end. I'd agree with the statement that no particular aspect really stands out, but all the aspects are well done (which in itself is something noteworthy) and overall it makes for a very enjoyable game experience.
I'm still undecided regarding Eschalon book, tough The Spirit Engine is definitely worth a try and purchase .
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Narakir: I'm still undecided regarding Eschalon book, tough The Spirit Engine is definitely worth a try and purchase .

Narakir, I own both at this point and they are both good games in their own right. I am not a die-hard RPG player, but more causal gaming in this regard. I am having a lot of fun so far.
You know the Spirit Engine 2 is a remarkable game for being coded by one man and only one other guy who did the music for the game. I will be playing though this game and then switching characters and doing it again! :o)
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VirtualPenguin: Where are the files located so that I can do it myself?
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KavazovAngel: Try this tool. It didn't work for me, but maybe it will for you.
http://tagesprotection.com/main.htm?page=minimum.htm
If it doesn't, then the files are "atksgt.sys" and "lirsgt.sys" and can be found in:
-WINDOWS\system32\drivers
-WINDOWS\sysWOW64\drivers
Delete what you can find and restart your PC.

In addition you have these registry entries as well:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\atksgt\
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\lirsgt\
Post edited September 20, 2009 by deoren
Their tool worked wonders for me :) Had to run it twice though... one install and one uninstall but everything is gone
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Faithful: We should create a list of all known Companies and Games that are Truly DRM Free.

I suppose it would help if you clarified exactly what you mean by DRM as there are some copy protection schemes that I don't mind. For example, I have no problem whatsoever if a game requires me to have the original CD in the drive in order to play. That is a perfectly reasonable requirement and is in no way burdensome on the consumer. Entering a unique serial number at the time of installation is another one I don't mind.
I'm less fond of protection schemes that require you go online to "authenticate" your installation, or that limit you to a certain number of installs before requiring you to contact the publisher to ask for permission to play your legitimately purchased game.
I absolutely detest protection schemes that secretly install software that could screw with your system or that prevent other legitimate software like CD/DVD imaging tools from working.
The ideal, of course, is no copy protection at all.
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StingingVelvet: Do you consider SecuROM in it's basic disc check form to be evil DRM, like Fallout 3 for example?

And that only happens if you use the launcher. Create a shortcut directly to fallout3.exe and you can start the game without even a disc check.
Post edited September 21, 2009 by MountainMan
I'd just like to take the time to say, that Gabe Newell is a retard.
Thank you.
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MountainMan: For example, I have no problem whatsoever if a game requires me to have the original CD in the drive in order to play. That is a perfectly reasonable requirement and is in no way burdensome on the consumer.

I thought about the same thing until I bought Crysis. When I tried to play the game it would spin up/down my drive so hard I thought it was going to explode. I immediately went and found a NoDISC exe in order to prevent the drive from being destroyed. It used SecuROM by the way, one of the popular DRM suites that is commonly used for "disc checks".
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MountainMan: I absolutely detest protection schemes that secretly install software that could screw with your system or that prevent other legitimate software like CD/DVD imaging tools from working.

Tages and StarForce load drivers that alter the way your optical drives are accessed, and the latter has been accused of forcing the optical drives to run in modes that they don't support, thereby eventually killing them. No clue if that's true or not, but it's certainly a widely held belief. There have been cases where it has interfered with normal operation of recording software, and even SafeDisc complains if it finds blacklisted software on your system. It also is used just for "disc checks".
SecuROM has been accused of using a vulnerable OpenSSL library which opens up security holes in your system, and it has hidden itself pretty well in the past in both the registry and the file system.
I'd say that the majority of cases where a "disc check" is being implemented that it's not an in-house job, and that one of the above mentioned DRM suites are being used.
Just something to think about.
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MountainMan: For example, I have no problem whatsoever if a game requires me to have the original CD in the drive in order to play. That is a perfectly reasonable requirement and is in no way burdensome on the consumer.
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deoren: I thought about the same thing until I bought Crysis. When I tried to play the game it would spin up/down my drive so hard I thought it was going to explode. I immediately went and found a NoDISC exe in order to prevent the drive from being destroyed. It used SecuROM by the way, one of the popular DRM suites that is commonly used for "disc checks".

I noticed that too with Crysis, it has an insane disc check. Some kind of nuclear powered system is built in to that thing. I would use a no-disc crack too if there were one that worked on the 64bit version that I could find.
Post edited September 22, 2009 by StingingVelvet
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StingingVelvet: I noticed that too with Crysis, it has an insane disc check. Some kind of nuclear powered system is built in to that thing. I would use a no-disc crack too if there were one that worked on the 64bit version that I could find.

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Yeah, I noticed the same thing too when I tried to play it on Win7 64-bit. The 32-bit fixed exe works fine on XP (hadn't tried it on Win7), which is what I originally played it on. Hopefully an updated exe will become available. I'm not too optimistic though. :|
For my testing I just played with the disc in the drive and crossed my fingers. Needless to say I didn't do that twice.
I was going to respond in this thread, but instead I figured these should go here.
Some retail releases that I can think of that I haven't seen mentioned (or have looked over) yet:
* Dark Sector
* HAWX
* World in Conflict: Soviet Assault
* Dawn of Discovery (after patch 1.1)
* Sid Meiers Civilization IV: The Complete Edition
* Tom Clancy's EndWar
* Defense Grid: The Awakening
* Far Cry 2 (1.03 patch)
* Supreme Commander (not sure which one, just use latest patch)
Corrections welcome!
-Both Supreme Commander games are DRM free after patching up.
-World in Conflict is DRM free, period. Whether you have the original game or the expanded game, the DRM was patched out.
-Note that many of the online-purchased Dawn of Discovery games still use Tages even with the 1.1 patch. They're basically running a different version. It's the same with Far Cry 2.
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deoren: I was going to respond in this thread, but instead I figured these should go here.
Some retail releases that I can think of that I haven't seen mentioned (or have looked over) yet:
* Dark Sector
* HAWX
* World in Conflict: Soviet Assault
* Dawn of Discovery (after patch 1.1)
* Sid Meiers Civilization IV: The Complete Edition
* Tom Clancy's EndWar
* Defense Grid: The Awakening
* Far Cry 2 (1.03 patch)
* Supreme Commander (not sure which one, just use latest patch)
Corrections welcome!

I will add these over the next few days to page one; as well as Crassmasters.
EDIT: Not sure if some are DRM Free such as Defense Grid.
Post edited December 23, 2009 by Faithful
The Witcher, since the last patch, I think.
Neverwinter Nights, since a few patches ago.
Neverwinter Nights 2, also last patch.
Any drivers and DRM-related files installed for the DRM before the patch can be safely removed after patching.
EDIT: Oh, they're already mentioned. Move along folks, nothing to see here.
Post edited December 11, 2009 by Miaghstir
Faerie Solitaire is a DRM free game! ;)