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Posted December 03, 2009
So i'm looking forward to buy me a christmas present (and of course a lot of GOG games) and just can't decide between these two, i love both gothic and Neverwinter Nights2/Kotor 2 stiled games.
I'm more inclined on buying DA:O since i read great things about it in the thread that was around some time, also there's blood,sex and boobies (yay!), but i'm kinda put off by the whole DLC business.
on the other hand Risen seems to be another awesome gothic game but it seems there aren't many people talking about it, so i'm afraid it's another mediocre Gothic 3 sequel.
If you have any experience with these games please share it.
Posted December 03, 2009
Disclaimer: I haven't played Risen yet...
But, with that said... I don't see how it could be better than DAO. Not to mention the full tool set that Dragon Age comes with (I'm assuming you're going to buy it for the PC, as you're asking about it here). Did you like the old Infinity Engine games? If yes, then don't hesitate to pickup Dragon Age at all.
Posted December 03, 2009
Well I personally didn't enjoy the Risen demo at all, but DA:O I've found to be a lot of fun. That said, I'm going to be totally biased towards DA:O and say consider getting that over Risen =)
Posted December 03, 2009
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WBGhiro: So i'm looking forward to buy me a christmas present (and of course a lot of GOG games) and just can't decide between these two, i love both gothic and Neverwinter Nights2/Kotor 2 stiled games.
I'm more inclined on buying DA:O since i read great things about it in the thread that was around some time, also there's blood,sex and boobies (yay!), but i'm kinda put off by the whole DLC business.
on the other hand Risen seems to be another awesome gothic game but it seems there aren't many people talking about it, so i'm afraid it's another mediocre Gothic 3 sequel.
If you have any experience with these games please share it.

DAO, no question.
Posted December 03, 2009
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WBGhiro: So i'm looking forward to buy me a christmas present (and of course a lot of GOG games) and just can't decide between these two, i love both gothic and Neverwinter Nights2/Kotor 2 stiled games.
I'm more inclined on buying DA:O since i read great things about it in the thread that was around some time, also there's blood,sex and boobies (yay!), but i'm kinda put off by the whole DLC business.
on the other hand Risen seems to be another awesome gothic game but it seems there aren't many people talking about it, so i'm afraid it's another mediocre Gothic 3 sequel.
If you have any experience with these games please share it.

DAO is typical Bioware narrative riffing Action RPG, Risen is a traditional RPG>
There's your lynchpin, what style of game do you prefer?
Posted December 03, 2009
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anjohl: DAO is typical Bioware narrative riffing Action RPG, Risen is a traditional RPG>
There's your lynchpin, what style of game do you prefer?

I'm not really following your logic here. They're both action RPGs, Risen you control one person and it has an actual combat system (as in control your attacks in real-time) while DAO makes you click on the opponent and select special abilities in a party system. I wouldn't call Risen a 'traditional' RPG, its traditional Gothic, yes (much better than Gothic III), but I wouldn't call Gothic games traditional. DAO, on the other hand, IS 100% traditional RPG.
Either way, I've played DAO, heard good things about Risen but haven't actualyl played it through. They're both RPGS but very different styles, I don't think you can go wrong with either and its more a style choice. Risen = individual, unforgiving, real time combat. DAO = standard fantasy RPG, party system, pause/command combat
Posted December 03, 2009
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anjohl: DAO is typical Bioware narrative riffing Action RPG, Risen is a traditional RPG>
There's your lynchpin, what style of game do you prefer?
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ilves: I'm not really following your logic here. They're both action RPGs, Risen you control one person and it has an actual combat system (as in control your attacks in real-time) while DAO makes you click on the opponent and select special abilities in a party system. I wouldn't call Risen a 'traditional' RPG, its traditional Gothic, yes (much better than Gothic III), but I wouldn't call Gothic games traditional. DAO, on the other hand, IS 100% traditional RPG.
Either way, I've played DAO, heard good things about Risen but haven't actualyl played it through. They're both RPGS but very different styles, I don't think you can go wrong with either and its more a style choice. Risen = individual, unforgiving, real time combat. DAO = standard fantasy RPG, party system, pause/command combat

Nothing made by Bioware post-KOTOR is a traditional RPG. They just take the conversation/morality engine from KOTOR and attach different combat systems to it.
Posted December 03, 2009
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WBGhiro: If you have any experience with these games please share it.

DAO is a much more mainstream game. It certainly had a bigger budget and is polished and everything... There's "blockbuster" written all over it.
Risen is much more edgy. It isn't trying to be likeable as much. It has soul.
But no matter what you choose - remember to get the retail copy. Digital releases for both of them are overstuffed with DRM.
Posted December 03, 2009
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WBGhiro: If you have any experience with these games please share it.
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Elwin: DAO is a much more mainstream game. It certainly had a bigger budget and is polished and everything... There's "blockbuster" written all over it.
Risen is much more edgy. It isn't trying to be likeable as much. It has soul.
But no matter what you choose - remember to get the retail copy. Digital releases for both of them are overstuffed with DRM.
are you kidding me.. Dragon Age: Origins is probably the best RPG I've ever played..
Posted December 03, 2009
The Risen demo was a piece of shit. So that's an easy choice for me, even if I haven't played DA:O yet.
Posted December 03, 2009
I loved both. Dragon Age: Origins is much more traditional, in the sense that it's a party-based game with tactical combat, clearly defined classes, et.c. The questlines are linear, but you can tackle most of them in any order you want, which makes it a bit more open than many other games of the same kind. Navigation is done through a world map, so it's not one seamless world.
Risen is more action-oriented. It has direct control over one guy, and fighting is done kind of like in a third person action game. It's also an open world-game where you navigate through a seamless world with virtually no loading, even when you enter buildings and dungeons. You can go wherever you want (though like the Gothic-games, you can expect to get your arse kicked if you explore the "wrong" parts of the map at an early level. The main story is linear, but there are many sidequests.
Both are quite challenging RPGs and very successful at what they try to do. Dragon Age has the edge in terms of storytelling, whereas Risen has more interesting dungeons and such. In Dragon Age, it was largely the story that really pulled me in, and in Risen it was the exploration itself that hooked me.
Posted December 03, 2009
How about adding Divinity 2: Ego Draconis in that question?
Has anyone here played it? Any opinions?
Posted December 03, 2009
dragon age hands down i played the risen demo was ok i will consider getting when steam has a weekend offer with it
Posted December 03, 2009
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WBGhiro: I'm more inclined on buying DA:O since i read great things about it in the thread that was around some time, also there's blood,sex and boobies (yay!), but i'm kinda put off by the whole DLC business.

Well DA:O is easily the best RPG I've played in years and I'd recommend it to pretty much anyone. I've not looked at the bioware forums for a while but the problematic DLC issues seemed to be dying down the last time I looked (and were pretty much exclusive to the PC). You don't seem to miss out on much if you choose to avoid the DLC. Personally I enjoyed the Wardens Keep addon, it wasn't huge but it had a decent chunk of content including new dialogue from all the main characters (at least all the ones I took there) and wasn't too expensive
In all fairness I do have to point out that the boobies in question are covered by a bra. A rather odd one in the case of morrigan, you see more skin when she's clothed...
On the up side, there's 4 romance options including 2 bisexual ones, 4 endings, lots of characters to recruit including a rather fun dog, some brilliantly amusing inter-party banter as you're walking around (anything involving morrigan is good, especially her vs alistair or her vs the dog) and a hot french redhead talking about caramel pudding in a distinctly sexual context.
Posted December 03, 2009
Dragon Age looks like a somewhat interesting experience, but the combat system and weird dialogue just put me to sleep.
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Wolfox: How about adding Divinity 2: Ego Draconis in that question?
Has anyone here played it? Any opinions?

I might as well quote myself for this one. :)

One person described it as being "like Gothic and Two Worlds had a baby, and that baby ate a dragon to become even more awesome". It is a very enjoyable experience with some novel design ideas and multiple solutions for most non-story quests--do you help this trader so he will lower his prices, help that other person who wants him dead/arrested/etc. (which will make him raise his prices), or help him and then betray him anyway to get rewards from both parties? When you have finished helping someone do you say nothing and get a normal reward or specifically ask to be rewarded and possibly get an inferior one instead of something better? All these options are open to you. Reading people's minds (an ability you get at the start of the game) costs experience points but can open up new quests or quest solution options that are otherwise unavailable, or you might just find out what that person plans to have for dinner. In addition to the normal rewards when finishing a quest you also get to choose a bonus reward from a small pool of rewards, and this opens up more hard choices; do you take that magic necklace, or is extra experience more valuable? How about some gold to be able to afford that nice weapon that guy was selling?
The main story gets more action-oriented and less conversation-driven near the end, as is to be expected from most RPGs, but it ended at the very point when I felt it was getting a bit repetitive, and this feeling only came about because I had been slogging through optional areas to complete some side quests. In addition to the usual combat and magic there are also complicated alchemy and enchanting systems; I didn't really get into this much but there are a vast number of potion recipes and enchantment formulas to collect (some of which are very rare), each needing the appropriate ingredients to get the effect you want.
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