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Posted February 22, 2011
I think Bioware tried way too hard to make Hawke seem like a baddass to the point were it kind of made me lol.

In terms of the story, I feel kind of meh with regards to the brother/sister dying since I don't have any attachment to the characters, and Hawke seemed to shrug off his death rather quickly also. I also feel the same way about the templar.

I'll probably wait for a discount on Steam or other online store before buying.
Posted February 22, 2011
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cw8: Wow the replies in RPS made me emoish:

[i]Nimic: Well this thread doesn’t give me much faith. It sounds exactly like what I feared it would be (essentially an action RPG with very much focus on the action and very little on the RPG. I’m not sure I even want to play the demo, I’m afraid my fears will be confirmed.
Mayjori: the demo will make you cry :( [/i]

[i]bascule42: Just tried the demo. Oh dear. They’ve Jar Jar Binksed it.
“Made it more appealing to a wider player base.” Bullshit for; “Console is the primary platform for this release”. Well, I hope the xbox kids enjoy it. It looks nice, plenty of hack n slash, rather simple , and has a nice Press X to start, oh sorry did I say “x”", of course I meant “any key to start”. What am I thinking. And of course, the lovely, simple charactor selection. Choose your hero. Is there an RPG/fantasy version of “America, Fuck Yeah”? “Ferelden, Fuck yeah. Darkspawn your days are through. Now you have to answer to…” etc.[/i]

[i]cjlr: The ugly – DA2 is to DA what Baldur’s Gate: Dark Alliance was to BG2.
But hey, Dark Alliance was fun. It gives me and my friends something to do while we drink beer. It’s dumb and shallow, but at least it’s fun. Maybe DA2 will be fun. I don’t think it will be what I was hoping for, but maybe it will be fun. Tits.[/i]

And to me BG: DA and Simcity Socities are the greatest shit on the Earth for using the name of a legendary game and turning it completely different from the original games.
Yeah, 'the demo makes you cry' is about as good a review as I can think of too, my first thoughts when I started was WTF? It's really like that, all that bullshit we've been afraid of and no, wait, that's the actual game. Like the whole thing was a parody. DA:O was an action RPG, this is an RPG the same way that Prince of Persia is, but Prince of Persia had a better story. It doesn't matter how big they make Isabella's boobs, it won't make up for carving out the game's heart and soul. I've been thinking maybe I would buy DA2 when the price went down, maybe a few months after relase, but this cinched it for me; no fuckin way. I loved you Bioware, you broke my heart.
Posted February 23, 2011
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StingingVelvet: I loaded the game with DX11 and very high settings... it let me pick them in the launcher. Unfortunately the game was then broken and did not look or run properly. I set it back to default and played the demo...

Anyway DX11 did load a lot faster.
Max everything but Details..set those to medium. I messed around a lot and that's the only thing that mattered.
Posted February 23, 2011
you all are very lucky: you can actually play the demo. I did the mistake to download and install it via Steam. Conclusion : can't pass the "apparence-name" screen, when I click continue, it simply crashes to desktop. Plus the Rogue version crashes immediatly after selection... Way to fuck up a demo release, Bioware/Steam!!

Anyway, for the small amount of time I've been able to play it, I must say I won't buy it on release day. maybe on a sale or with a GOTY version, why not...

I don't like the combat: not being able to change the height of the camera really killed the interest for me. I am not playing a 3rd person shooter, damn it!!

Combat animation? Yeah, fluid and classy but... that's a Japanese Action-RPG, not a Bioware RPG!! Especially when the mage kills he ogre. If you played DAO 1, you feel like this character is stronger than Flemeth, the Archdemon and all the other bosses taken together!

I mean, I'm all for a little fantasy, but frankly speaking, this looks more like Bulletstorm than DAO.

So, I'm not interested at all by DAO2. And as far as I'm concerned, The Witcher 2 might be the best 2011 RPG... At least, that will be one of the very few games I'll buy on day one!
Posted February 23, 2011
I liked the demo, at least what was shown in it.

To all the people who're complaining about this playing like an action-RPG, have you ever actually played an action-RPG? DA 2 's combat is very different from any of the ones I've played, anyway (games like Divinity 2 or Risen).

Frankly is the lack of a top-down camera view that important? I like having that option myself, but what really matters is how much of the battlefield you can see at once. You see quite enough of it with the camera angle as it is right now imo.

And yes, combat is very easy on normal, but there are two higher difficulty settings, and if you're one of those who thought nightmare in DA O was too easy, I guess you'll have to rely on mods just like for the first one.

All in all, I definitely don't approve of all the changes they made (though some seem good), but the game looks and plays like DA O to me.
At least the story sounds like it could be more interesting than the previous "save the world from the horde" cliché (though we'll have to wait and see about that), and that's definitely what interests me most.
Posted February 23, 2011
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mystral: Frankly is the lack of a top-down camera view that important? I like having that option myself, but what really matters is how much of the battlefield you can see at once. You see quite enough of it with the camera angle as it is right now imo.
My main gripe with the camera change is the attempt to pacify those that loved the overhead, while still removing it. The result is a camera that doesn't really satisfy anyone completely.

The drive camera (max zoom in) was much better in Dragon Age, now your camera practically sits on top of your characters tiny shoulders. Hawke just about disappears completely behind the quickbar.

The camera height helps with the max zoom out, such that it very nearly resembles DA1's overhead. But as mentioned it has negative aspects too.
Posted February 23, 2011
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xa_chan: you all are very lucky: you can actually play the demo. I did the mistake to download and install it via Steam. Conclusion : can't pass the "apparence-name" screen, when I click continue, it simply crashes to desktop. Plus the Rogue version crashes immediatly after selection... Way to fuck up a demo release, Bioware/Steam!!

Anyway, for the small amount of time I've been able to play it, I must say I won't buy it on release day. maybe on a sale or with a GOTY version, why not...

I don't like the combat: not being able to change the height of the camera really killed the interest for me. I am not playing a 3rd person shooter, damn it!!

Combat animation? Yeah, fluid and classy but... that's a Japanese Action-RPG, not a Bioware RPG!! Especially when the mage kills he ogre. If you played DAO 1, you feel like this character is stronger than Flemeth, the Archdemon and all the other bosses taken together!

I mean, I'm all for a little fantasy, but frankly speaking, this looks more like Bulletstorm than DAO.

So, I'm not interested at all by DAO2. And as far as I'm concerned, The Witcher 2 might be the best 2011 RPG... At least, that will be one of the very few games I'll buy on day one!
well the story IS NOT taking place in real time the real time story is verrics (that hairy chested dwarf) so he will Kinda portray hawke as a bit of a badass and powerfull and will make up some stuff along the way :P
Posted February 23, 2011
The only thing I don't understand about the demo is why they didn't allow you to switch on auto-attack in the console versions when it'll be in the full version.

It seems BioWare could have avoided some of the people at least saying you have mash X/A to attack. Of course, that is assuming the people complaining would even check the options. (It's just that they're disabled in the demo)
Posted February 23, 2011
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DavidGil: The only thing I don't understand about the demo is why they didn't allow you to switch on auto-attack in the console versions when it'll be in the full version.

It seems BioWare could have avoided some of the people at least saying you have mash X/A to attack. Of course, that is assuming the people complaining would even check the options. (It's just that they're disabled in the demo)
I looked through the options in case it was a selectable thing but I didn't see it, either I'm blind or its really not in the demo build. Since the game is a few weeks from release it seems weird to not have everything locked
Posted February 23, 2011
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xa_chan: you all are very lucky: you can actually play the demo. I did the mistake to download and install it via Steam. Conclusion : can't pass the "apparence-name" screen, when I click continue, it simply crashes to desktop. Plus the Rogue version crashes immediatly after selection... Way to fuck up a demo release, Bioware/Steam!!
I used the Steam demo, ran fine.
Posted February 23, 2011
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Aliasalpha: Since the game is a few weeks from release it seems weird to not have everything locked
If you watch the live video feed posted in this thread, the one in which they make the 'we've gone gold' announcement. You'll see a point where you can walk through town, and your team mates walk too. They point it out, yet I could not get my team to do this (pc demo) they still jostled about like idiots running while I was walking.

Its not that surprising that features are missing. Demo's take time to make and it may not have been deemed worthy of updating the demo build with the latest gold changes. The pc demo suffers some terrible interface issues that have been resolved in the release version.
Posted February 23, 2011
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xa_chan: So, I'm not interested at all by DAO2. And as far as I'm concerned, The Witcher 2 might be the best 2011 RPG... At least, that will be one of the very few games I'll buy on day one!
It's odd that you're condemning and praising two different games before they're even released. I'm sure The Witcher 2 will be fine, but with Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2 releasing this year, I find it doubtful that it will be anywhere close to the best RPG. Also, the original Witcher only became decent when they fixed all the horrible problems with the original release. What makes you think the same won't apply here?

The Witcher 2 is one of those games that I'll have to play a demo of before I even commit to purchasing it. There were some serious problems with the first Witcher, and if those aren't fixed, I'm not interested.
Post edited February 23, 2011 by TheCheese33
Posted February 23, 2011
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xa_chan: So, I'm not interested at all by DAO2. And as far as I'm concerned, The Witcher 2 might be the best 2011 RPG... At least, that will be one of the very few games I'll buy on day one!
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TheCheese33: It's odd that you're condemning and praising two different games before they're even released. I'm sure The Witcher 2 will be fine, but with Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2 releasing this year, I find it doubtful that it will be anywhere close to the best RPG. Also, the original Witcher only became decent when they fixed all the horrible problems with the original release. What makes you think the same won't apply here?

The Witcher 2 is one of those games that I'll have to play a demo of before I even commit to purchasing it. There were some serious problems with the first Witcher, and if those aren't fixed, I'm not interested.
Agreed, people seem very hasty in passing judgment to me.
Even the demo we got wasn't (hopefully) representative of the full game since it was very combat-heavy (because that was the aspect of the game that DA O players worried about most I guess).

Though you've got to consider that many people (especially here) are ready to buy The Witcher 2 at release in order to support its no-DRM policy, and not so much because they're certain it'll be great.
Posted February 23, 2011
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mystral: Though you've got to consider that many people (especially here) are ready to buy The Witcher 2 at release in order to support its no-DRM policy, and not so much because they're certain it'll be great.
The Witcher 2 will be great but It kinda annoys me that people hold it up as some paragon of RPG's. It's an ARPG at best and when people were crying and moaning that Dragon Age was going to have an attack button rather auto-attack they seemed to forget The Witcher does have an attack button with combos.
Posted February 23, 2011
What I find funny about the comparisons to The Witcher 2 is that it's an action RPG. Why does being disappointed by the supposed lack of tactics in DA2 mean a pure action RPG s the more palpable choice?
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