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dizcology: snip

This meta-stuff is fun and all, we still need to come up with a way to decide who wins the game code.
Main goal = we need to come up with a way to decide who wins the game code.
this is one is the greatest thing that needs to be decided upon

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GabiMoro: Interesting, but if we don't lower the % majority needed for a new dogma we won't accomplish anything.

First of all Bluemooner needs to take a look at the proposal from the first page (especialy at: xyem posts the actual number / names of players) because Erekose won't vote for any %majority unless this is cleared.
this is very true. i think it likely i will be the monkey wrench in the plans as well, unless we can get the Main goal decided upon, or have 2 viable non 'code fragments' repetition of other giveaways on the table and leave it up to chance to decide which path we all take.

another perspective is lowering the % majority to 'accomplish' anything is irrelevant this early, until we decide what the perimeters for 'winning' are.
im unlikely to 'give up my vote' for a lower % majority, with no pathway to winning even established.
i enjoy my 1 man veto power currently (to AVOID the code fragments game, and Ensure something different).

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random possibilities / ideas:
- everyone gets hit points and we work out how to interact with that.
- xyem busts out a deck of cards and virtually deals us into a 6 way game of poker (no strip poker >_<)
- we draw lots and go head to head in rock-paper-lizard-scissors-spock (pm our selections to King xyem, and he announces the victors of the rounds
- someone else comes up with something good and viable as a game
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i do like that concept recently brought up that we can increase the number of games to be won.
but 'how' to win needs to be established.
Post edited June 20, 2013 by ErekoseDM
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ErekoseDM: random possibilities / ideas:
- everyone gets hit points and we work out how to interact with that.
- xyem busts out a deck of cards and virtually deals us into a 6 way game of poker (no strip poker >_<)
- we draw lots and go head to head in rock-paper-lizard-scissors-spock (pm our selections to King xyem, and he announces the victors of the rounds.
but 'how' to win needs to be established.
I'm fine with any of them.
We can discuss this, but if anyone doesn't like one ideea then we should abandon it and quickly move to the next one.
Post edited June 20, 2013 by GabiMoro
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niniendowarrior: Proposal: 3 AYEs = dogma.
Yes.
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ErekoseDM: ---
random possibilities / ideas:
- everyone gets hit points and we work out how to interact with that.
- xyem busts out a deck of cards and virtually deals us into a 6 way game of poker (no strip poker >_<)
- we draw lots and go head to head in rock-paper-lizard-scissors-spock (pm our selections to King xyem, and he announces the victors of the rounds
- someone else comes up with something good and viable as a game
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Yes to any out-of-the-box idea.
Post edited June 20, 2013 by Novotnus
Proposals: Yes / No

1) 51% = dogma
blue, diz, nini, gabi, nov, / erek,

2) 85% = dogma
gabi, blue, / nov, nini,

3) 3 votes = dogma
nini, gabi, blue, nov,

4) xyem updates OP with player list
erek, gabi, diz, nini, nov, blue,

5) xyem updates OP with dogmas and votes
erek, gabi, diz, nini, nov, blue,

6) only members post in thread
erek, gabi, diz, nini, blue, / nov,

7) communication text / image only
erek, diz, nini, nov, / gabi,

8) xyem updates OP with game code info
erek, blue, / diz, nini, gabi,

9) can't vote out members
diz, nov, erek, nini, gabi, blue,

10) dogmas overruled by same %
diz, nini, / nov, erek, gabi, blue,

I abstain on #7 until it's clarified.

#4 is the most important thing, even more than establishing how to win the game. How do we know if anyone here is *supposed* to be here? How do you know if I'm allowed to vote? We need to know who all the members are before we can know who can vote and how many votes are needed for anything.
Post edited June 20, 2013 by BlueMooner
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BlueMooner: 3) 3 votes = dogma
nini, gabi, blue,
You missed my 'yes' on this one :)
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BlueMooner: Proposals: Yes / No

1) 51% = dogma
blue, diz, nini, gabi, nov, / erek,

2) 85% = dogma
gabi, blue, / nov, nini,

3) 3 votes = dogma
nini, gabi, blue,

4) xyem updates OP with player list
erek, gabi, diz, nini, nov, blue,

5) xyem updates OP with dogmas and votes
erek, gabi, diz, nini, nov, blue,

6) only members post in thread
erek, gabi, diz, nini, blue, / nov,

7) communication text / image only
erek, diz, nini, nov, / gabi,

8) xyem updates OP with game code info
erek, blue, / diz, nini, gabi,

9) can't vote out members
diz, nov, erek, nini, gabi, blue,

10) dogmas overruled by same %
diz, nini, / nov, erek, gabi, blue,

I abstain on #7 until it's clarified.
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xyem: Whatever method is chosen, make sure that dogma affecting information is very clear as I need to keep track of it. For example, if you are voting, please only post only your vote and the exact dogma you are voting for.
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Novotnus: You missed my 'yes' on this one :)
I don't know what you mean. Your name is clearly there. : P
Just to clarify what I posted above, players are allowed to track and post the current vote status as BlueMooner did. However, they are not regarded as a valid vote if you just add your name to them, they have to be explicit for me to count them.
Post edited June 21, 2013 by xyem
Proposal: Game code winner must have more than 50 rep.
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niniendowarrior: Proposal: Game code winner must have more than 50 rep.
Yes

(just double checked and it seems all current players are above this threshold.
but its still not in the OP c/o blue's hanging chad equivalent votes >_<)
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niniendowarrior: Proposal: Game code winner must have more than 50 rep.
YAY.

This in not a dogma proposal, yet.
We can battle by solving logic problems. Every player gives the others a problem to solve.
The one who fails the most will be eliminated. A new round begins with the remaining players and so on.
Example for problems:
1.The day before yesterday, Billy was 19 years old. Next year, he'll turn 22. How is this possible?
2.One train runs from A to B at 90 miles per hour, the other runs from B to A at 65 miles per hour. How far apart were the two trains 30 minutes prior to their crossing?
3. The Three Children:
- How old are your children?
- The product of their ages is 36.
- But their sum?
- It is equal to the number of our neighbour's house.
- I still need one more information!
-The eldest child plays at piano.
How old are they?
Post edited June 21, 2013 by GabiMoro
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xyem: However, they are not regarded as a valid vote if you just add your name to them, they have to be explicit for me to count them.
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ErekoseDM: (but its still not in the OP c/o blue's hanging chad equivalent votes >_<)
Arglebargle!!!11 I'm not in Florida anymore!

85% majority =dogma
YES

3 AYEs = dogma.
YES

Xyem lists all players in the OP, and labels inactive/defeated players.
YES

xyem keeps relevant info for the game (ex. - the tally of votes for dogmas)in the OP, and updates it as it progresses.
YES

only xyem and players are allowed to post in the thread.
YES

xyem reveals the identities and quantities of the game code(s) in the OP
YES

Players cannot be voted to be removed from the game.
YES

Any dogma can be revised or removed if at least the same % is achieved as when the dogma was established.
NO

Game code winner must have more than 50 rep.
NO
Post edited June 21, 2013 by BlueMooner
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niniendowarrior: Proposal: Game code winner must have more than 50 rep.
Yes...
Guys, what's your opinion on Erekose's ideas for winning the game?
What about my idea?
If you don't like it then say it and we will come up with something else. (everybody has VETO power right now).
If you like only parts from it then let's hear what you would change and perhaps we can improve the original.
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GabiMoro: Guys, what's your opinion on Erekose's ideas for winning the game?
What about my idea?
If you don't like it then say it and we will come up with something else. (everybody has VETO power right now).
If you like only parts from it then let's hear what you would change and perhaps we can improve the original.
The hit-point idea is neat, and I like it. But not so much random drawings.

Giving each other puzzles is quite nice! I for one would rather not be eliminated simply because I can't solve a puzzle. Perhaps failing to solve a puzzle would only lower my hit-point? (And on the other hand, it seems hard to come up with lots of reasonable puzzles...)
Post edited June 21, 2013 by dizcology