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Posted November 16, 2011
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wodmarach: they won 1 of 3 points.. they got confirmation that the actual act of emulation is legal they lost on 2 copyright infringement cases
Wikipedia says;
Sony lost on all counts
Posted November 16, 2011
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wodmarach: they won 1 of 3 points.. they got confirmation that the actual act of emulation is legal they lost on 2 copyright infringement cases
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Darling_Jimmy: Wikipedia says;
Sony lost on all counts
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Darling_Jimmy:
Wikipedia only covers the US case (and that badly) the EU case Sony won on all counts due to lack of fair use laws.
Posted November 16, 2011
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boct1584: A note about emulators which I learned hanging out at TASVIdeos; console BIOS files are also illegal to distribute. Found this out when I started watching emulator movies in PCSX and PSXjin, both of which require an external BIOS file.
PCSX includes a reverse engineered BIOS. You don't have to use it but it's there.
Posted November 16, 2011
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doady: Emulators or the use of emulators are never illegal.
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wodmarach: Necroing but

NO! HELL NO!

Where the hell did you get this idea? The logic in custom control chips is copyright to the system designer so unless you have a clean room implementation of said logic an Emulator can be illegal. For example the case that made this fact fairly well known..
Bleem!
It was one of the first comercial emulators it was sued into bankruptcy for using actual PS1 rom images rather than clean room implementations. Do not fool yourself Emulators are not always legal in any way shape or form...
Do you have a reference? My understanding was that Bleem used a reverse engineered BIOS like VGS. If they ripped off the PSX BIOS that's just plain copyright infringement and has little to do with emulation.
Posted November 18, 2011
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boct1584: A note about emulators which I learned hanging out at TASVIdeos; console BIOS files are also illegal to distribute. Found this out when I started watching emulator movies in PCSX and PSXjin, both of which require an external BIOS file.
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Snickersnack: PCSX includes a reverse engineered BIOS. You don't have to use it but it's there.
I had forgotten about that on account of it didn't work with any game I tried it with.
Posted November 18, 2011
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Snickersnack: PCSX includes a reverse engineered BIOS. You don't have to use it but it's there.
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boct1584: I had forgotten about that on account of it didn't work with any game I tried it with.
I had good luck with FF7 and Megaman Legends a few years ago.
Posted November 18, 2011
In order to SELL those games GOG would have to get permission but downloading them for your own personal use, as long as you're not redistributing or advertising to the galaxy that you did so is fair game unless you try to SELL them yourself.

The complete set (all countries) of both SNES and Genesis only take up half a DVD.

The emulators "Zsnes" and "Gens" run the games immaculately.

"psx" and "epsxe" play most PSX titles without a hitch.

A little research and FileTram go a long way in acquiring the BIOs for the emulators.

If you're talking Dreamcast "nullDC" is a good emulator but the sound is terribly broken.

Saturn, GameCube, PS2 and XBox games I'd much rather purchase GOG versions of if GOG obtained the right to resell and could polish them up.

And since MS is God when it come to computers and the interwebs you're not going to find a functional XBox emulator anyway. Instead strings have been pulled so that you can emulate entirely everything else on your XBox - including PC games. =/
Posted November 18, 2011
I'm told that bsnes is a more accurate emulator than ZSNES, although ZSNES v1.51 does an excellent job.

For NES games, GOG would want to use FCEUX hands-down; it emulates the NES so accurately, micro500 on TASVideos had played back movie files created with it on an actual NES.
Posted November 18, 2011
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hedwards: I disagree, there's absolutely nothing illegal about emulation, at least in the US, provided that it's a clean room implementation. Nintendo might throw a hissy fit about it, but I doubt very much that they have any right to prevent Activision from signing a licensing agreement with GOG for 20 year old games.
Or GOG might just try to enter an agreement with Nintendo, Sega, Sony et al. regarding use of their ROMs for emulated titles sold world-wide, rendering any legality problems regarding pirated ROMs void.
Posted May 15, 2014
I just wanted to update this thread on some new info.

Blizzard re-released Rock n Roll Racing (which never saw a PC release) on Battle.net. The game is bundled with ZSNES as an executable. This pretty much throws all of the speculation that it can't be done out the window.
Posted May 15, 2014
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bpsilvia: I just wanted to update this thread on some new info.

Blizzard re-released Rock n Roll Racing (which never saw a PC release) on Battle.net. The game is bundled with ZSNES as an executable. This pretty much throws all of the speculation that it can't be done out the window.
It is also a heavily limited edition, effectively a demo.

Also, it's not very new info, we've talked about the release of Rock'n'Roll Racing before.
Posted May 15, 2014
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bpsilvia: I just wanted to update this thread on some new info.

Blizzard re-released Rock n Roll Racing (which never saw a PC release) on Battle.net. The game is bundled with ZSNES as an executable. This pretty much throws all of the speculation that it can't be done out the window.
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Maighstir: It is also a heavily limited edition, effectively a demo.

Also, it's not very new info, we've talked about the release of Rock'n'Roll Racing before.
Do you have a link to the thread?
Posted May 15, 2014
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Maighstir: It is also a heavily limited edition, effectively a demo.

Also, it's not very new info, we've talked about the release of Rock'n'Roll Racing before.
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bpsilvia: Do you have a link to the thread?
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/blizzard_classic_games
Posted May 15, 2014
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bpsilvia: Do you have a link to the thread?
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Maighstir: http://www.gog.com/forum/general/blizzard_classic_games
Thank you.
Posted May 15, 2014
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bpsilvia: Blizzard re-released Rock n Roll Racing (which never saw a PC release) on Battle.net. The game is bundled with ZSNES as an executable. This pretty much throws all of the speculation that it can't be done out the window.
To clarify this is mostly a concern for systems that can only be emulated by using an original BIOS file; many older systems like the SNES don't need the BIOS file so that removes one of the legal hurdles of re-releasing such games.
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