Posted December 08, 2013

SLP2000
Registered: Dec 2009
From Poland

Silverhawk170485
New User
Registered: Dec 2011
From Germany
Posted December 08, 2013
I think Daedelic simply wants to sell their games more pricey to german gamers. If you look on other digital distributors which even sell the games DRM-free, you can see that the german versions cost more. GOG has a one world, one price policy, so they wouldn't be able to sell their games overpriced to german gamers.
Post edited December 08, 2013 by Silverhawk170485

Ingsoc85
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Registered: May 2011
From Israel
Posted December 08, 2013


Silverhawk170485
New User
Registered: Dec 2011
From Germany
Posted December 08, 2013



Rincewind81
yeah
Registered: Jun 2011
From Germany
Posted December 08, 2013
Please read my post three hours ago.
They sell Goodbye Deponia for 17,59 Dollar to german gamers through the indie gala store or for 10,99 Dollar to german Mac Users and Memoria for 12,89 Dollar @Indiegala. Even this, disappointing but understandable, reason isn't valid anymore. It seems that ONLY GOG isn't able/allowed to offer the german versions.
So a drm-free german version is ok, "cheap" dollar prices for "german" Steam keys are ok, but dollar prices for drm-free german version is to much? Where is the sense in that?
They sell Goodbye Deponia for 17,59 Dollar to german gamers through the indie gala store or for 10,99 Dollar to german Mac Users and Memoria for 12,89 Dollar @Indiegala. Even this, disappointing but understandable, reason isn't valid anymore. It seems that ONLY GOG isn't able/allowed to offer the german versions.
So a drm-free german version is ok, "cheap" dollar prices for "german" Steam keys are ok, but dollar prices for drm-free german version is to much? Where is the sense in that?

keeveek
NOPE
Registered: Dec 2009
From Poland
Posted December 08, 2013

That's it, they think German players would pirate their games and that would hurt their sales. That's why they release their games here after a few weeks, and without German language included.
It's nothing about hate, it's just what they believe is good for them.
If you're a Germany located buyer, you'd have to pay 30EUR for Night of the Rabbit while in Poland - 9.99EUR.
It's not about DRM, it's about regional pricing. They want Germans to pay more for their games.
Post edited December 08, 2013 by keeveek

Rincewind81
yeah
Registered: Jun 2011
From Germany
Posted December 08, 2013

I am German. I can get Deponia 3 here for only 17,59$, later 19,99$.
http://store.indiegala.com/index.php/goodbye-deponia.html
German Apple users can buy Deponia 3 till Dec. 15th for 10.99$ in the Mac Store.
I can buy Memoria for less then 13$ with the german language at the Gala Store or later for 19,99$.
If I want to buy it from GOG, without the german version, I must pay for both games 19,99$.
What kind of regional pricing is this?
Pay more get less?
Post edited December 08, 2013 by Rincewind81

Niggles
MOMOSaysMAHAYO;)
Registered: Apr 2009
From Australia
Posted December 08, 2013
Is it Daedalic or their choice of publisher in germany?

RadonGOG
Buy Sacrifice!!!
Registered: Jun 2012
From Germany
Posted December 08, 2013


I am German. I can get Deponia 3 here for only 17,59$, later 19,99$.
http://store.indiegala.com/index.php/goodbye-deponia.html
German Apple users can buy Deponia 3 till Dec. 15th for 10.99$ in the Mac Store.
I can buy Memoria for less then 13$ with the german language at the Gala Store or later for 19,99$.
If I want to buy it from GOG, without the german version, I must pay for both games 19,99$.
What kind of regional pricing is this?
Pay more get less?
Deponia Trillogy has been offered here for a price that was almost robbery and was way cheaper than buying Dep and Chaos alone. (those two with german language package)
This simply cannot have something to do with pricements, if they´d be scared to loose to much money, they´d rise prices of all three titles or wouldn´t do so heavy launch-sales!
It doesn´t make any sence to me, so the only explanation could be that some high folks at Deadalic really hate GOG...

keeveek
NOPE
Registered: Dec 2009
From Poland
Posted December 08, 2013


I am German. I can get Deponia 3 here for only 17,59$, later 19,99$.
http://store.indiegala.com/index.php/goodbye-deponia.html
German Apple users can buy Deponia 3 till Dec. 15th for 10.99$ in the Mac Store.
I can buy Memoria for less then 13$ with the german language at the Gala Store or later for 19,99$.
If I want to buy it from GOG, without the german version, I must pay for both games 19,99$.
What kind of regional pricing is this?
Pay more get less?

Rincewind81
yeah
Registered: Jun 2011
From Germany
Posted December 08, 2013
For Deponia only Deadalic.
For Memoria and Chains of Satinav there is also Deep Silver included.
Daedalic claimed for CoS that Deep Silver wanted Steamworks for the german version and that Deep Silver has the rights for the german market and Daedalic is free to market the game internationally . Same for Mermoria, Daedalic says, that Deep Silver can control the german price. For Memoria this means that the Steam prices vary. (19.99$/€ for the US and the rest of Europe and 39,99€ for Germany). But is this true? Daedalic was able to offer Chains of Satinav drm-free(!) and german(!) in the humble weekly sale and is now offering the german version of Memoria through the Gala Store for less then half of the steam price for germans. Strange...
Nor more regional pricing? ;)
I don't want it there. I want it here.
I have Part one and two here and i want to keep game series at one place. Thats why I decided, that i want an GOG key for Broken Sword 5 - I have Part 1-4 here, too.
That's why I am so angry about this matter. If Deadalic removes the german versions from future releases - fine, maybe I will buy them somewhere else. But the removed the german version here in the last installment of an episodic game! Obviously for no reason at all.
For Memoria and Chains of Satinav there is also Deep Silver included.
Daedalic claimed for CoS that Deep Silver wanted Steamworks for the german version and that Deep Silver has the rights for the german market and Daedalic is free to market the game internationally . Same for Mermoria, Daedalic says, that Deep Silver can control the german price. For Memoria this means that the Steam prices vary. (19.99$/€ for the US and the rest of Europe and 39,99€ for Germany). But is this true? Daedalic was able to offer Chains of Satinav drm-free(!) and german(!) in the humble weekly sale and is now offering the german version of Memoria through the Gala Store for less then half of the steam price for germans. Strange...
Nor more regional pricing? ;)
I don't want it there. I want it here.
I have Part one and two here and i want to keep game series at one place. Thats why I decided, that i want an GOG key for Broken Sword 5 - I have Part 1-4 here, too.
That's why I am so angry about this matter. If Deadalic removes the german versions from future releases - fine, maybe I will buy them somewhere else. But the removed the german version here in the last installment of an episodic game! Obviously for no reason at all.
Post edited December 08, 2013 by Rincewind81

keeveek
NOPE
Registered: Dec 2009
From Poland

Quasebarth
No Eager Man
Registered: Nov 2010
From Germany
Posted December 08, 2013
Well folks, discussing it here at GOG seems to be a fruitless effort. Daedalic won't answer here and GOG officials won't either because they do not want to ruin their maybe already damaged relationship with Daedalic by making statements to this situation.
I would like to encourage those that are unhappy with the situation or simply want to shed some light on it to go over to the Daedalic boards and ask them the questions directly. I did so with Deponia 3, but I have not got an official answer:
http://forum.daedalic.de/viewtopic.php?f=169&t=4534
If more people ask similar questions at their boards they may have to react and answer though.
For the record, just to show it exists, Deponia 3 (German version, DRM-free without Steam):
http://www.mcgame.com/de/store/game/10620051-goodbye-deponia
http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-DEPONIA3/goodbye-deponia
*with regional pricing though
I would like to encourage those that are unhappy with the situation or simply want to shed some light on it to go over to the Daedalic boards and ask them the questions directly. I did so with Deponia 3, but I have not got an official answer:
http://forum.daedalic.de/viewtopic.php?f=169&t=4534
If more people ask similar questions at their boards they may have to react and answer though.
For the record, just to show it exists, Deponia 3 (German version, DRM-free without Steam):
http://www.mcgame.com/de/store/game/10620051-goodbye-deponia
http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-DEPONIA3/goodbye-deponia
*with regional pricing though
Post edited December 08, 2013 by Quasebarth

Rincewind81
yeah
Registered: Jun 2011
From Germany
Posted December 08, 2013

http://www.gamesload.de/goodbye-deponia/
German, maybe some activation - but not steam.
http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DD-DEPONIA3/goodbye-deponia also gamersgate.com
german and drm-free
http://www.gamesrocket.de/download/Goodbye-Deponia.html
german and drm-free
Did I prove my point?
If you think they did it only because trolololo, then I have no further questions.
Give me any other reason. It is not about drm-free, it is not about regional pricing, it is not about resellers are only allowed to sell steam keys. Only GOG is not allowed to sell the german version... Already did this, never got an answer... ;)
Post edited December 08, 2013 by Rincewind81

keeveek
NOPE
Registered: Dec 2009
From Poland
Posted December 08, 2013

german and drm-free
Did I prove my point?
But yes, you've proven your point, gamersgate has multilingual release.
Post edited December 08, 2013 by keeveek