Posted November 26, 2012
GamezRanker
Disagreement Verboten!
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Thunderstone
Elementalist
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Posted November 26, 2012
Would be nice, but I'm not that concerned about it. Rep is just another form of epeen. It would be nice if someone were ask me to clarify what I mean if there is a misunderstanding. I actually put some thought in my posts, I'm not trying to troll. If someone has a problem with what I post, I don't mind giving some clarification.
I try not to downvote unless it is a spam or a trolling attempt. I have been guilty of hitting the - button too sometimes when I see a post that just really grates on my nerves. I try to keep in mind that everyone has a right to their opinion even if I don't agree with it.
I try not to downvote unless it is a spam or a trolling attempt. I have been guilty of hitting the - button too sometimes when I see a post that just really grates on my nerves. I try to keep in mind that everyone has a right to their opinion even if I don't agree with it.
Post edited November 26, 2012 by Thunderstone
Hovis1974
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Posted November 26, 2012
I remember when i first started posting on the forums "years" ago. I had made a comment about there's no such thing as girls that play games....Now i was obviously being sarcastic BUT didn't state that in my post. Next thing i know, people were taking me seriously and made my rep plummet. Not that it really bothered me but i was like WTF? lol
Post edited November 26, 2012 by Hovis1974
tfishell
Remorse: The List, if you like FPS psych horror
tfishell Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Oct 2010
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Posted November 26, 2012
BlueMooner: As I did so, I wondered whether I should say anything, or whether that would be rude. I decided not to post, but it got me thinking on how others feel on the issue.
People are very free with giving out +1s for game giveaways and saying so, but never seem to mention -1s.
I actually posted a thread about this not too long ago, which some liked and some hated with a Die-Hardian Vengence. (Maybe that's the one you voted down ;) People are very free with giving out +1s for game giveaways and saying so, but never seem to mention -1s.
I'm not a fan of -1ing unless it's absurdly stupid or spam, but I would suggest try at least posting WHY you voted down a certain post. I guess -1ing wouldn't be so bad in my mind if people didn't have the option of auto-hiding -1'd posts (see image), but then again if there is some offensive content posted, hiding it may be best.
In a nutshell, I'd suggest trying to discuss more than just slap the -1 button, especially if you simply disagree with them.
DieRuhe
my glasses are dirty
DieRuhe Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Sep 2008
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Posted November 26, 2012
To me, the thing about it is, like just about any topic here, it's mostly in the perception of the reader. So to down-rep something as a warning to others that it's not worth the time is, well, subjective. And that's what it pretty much boils down to, because it's rare that someone posts something here that is beyond the pale; it just ends up as "I don't like what you're saying so down you go."
And I'll bring it up again, just because: in a recent thread about the down/up-rep thing, I posted a response addressing this very topic and said I thought the down-rep should be removed completely, but if not, then "There should be some sort of notification - ie, You have been down-repped by...."
and someone wrote a response in which it was specifically stated that they down-repped me because they didn't like the idea (or rather, because I "asked" for it) - so you see, with such an arbitrary system, you'll never please everyone.
I still say there could be a better system to implement. Getting down-repped because someone doesn't like what you say is just ridiculous. If someone is intentionally offensive/racist/inflammatory/whatever, then there should just be a simple way to flag a post for review - but that would require a little more active moderation.
But anyway, to answer your specific question, sure, I'd rather have someone explain to me what they don't like about what I said - in a tactful manner - rather than just hitting the "-" and feeling like they did their good deed for the day. :-)
And I'll bring it up again, just because: in a recent thread about the down/up-rep thing, I posted a response addressing this very topic and said I thought the down-rep should be removed completely, but if not, then "There should be some sort of notification - ie, You have been down-repped by...."
and someone wrote a response in which it was specifically stated that they down-repped me because they didn't like the idea (or rather, because I "asked" for it) - so you see, with such an arbitrary system, you'll never please everyone.
I still say there could be a better system to implement. Getting down-repped because someone doesn't like what you say is just ridiculous. If someone is intentionally offensive/racist/inflammatory/whatever, then there should just be a simple way to flag a post for review - but that would require a little more active moderation.
But anyway, to answer your specific question, sure, I'd rather have someone explain to me what they don't like about what I said - in a tactful manner - rather than just hitting the "-" and feeling like they did their good deed for the day. :-)
mondo84
hwgr
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Posted November 26, 2012
Thunderstone: Would be nice, but I'm not that concerned about it. Rep is just another form of epeen. It would be nice if someone were ask me to clarify what I mean if there is a misunderstanding. I actually put some thought in my posts, I'm not trying to troll. If someone has a problem with what I post, I don't mind giving some clarification.
One's epeen can never be too large. ;)
Ivory&Gold
Utterly depraved
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Shinook
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Posted November 26, 2012
I used to be a part of a forum that had a system that let you neg rep people with a comment, it was anonymous.
Usually with positive rep, people would sign their rep, but rarely did anyone ever sign neg rep. It sortof became a way of saying "I don't like what you said, but I'm too lazy to actually explain why, so I'm just gonna neg rep you with some obnoxious comment". It seemed contrary to the point of having a discussion board if people were just making negative comments without allowing for any discussion.
Overall, IMO the system was not constructive and didn't really help the community police itself.
Usually with positive rep, people would sign their rep, but rarely did anyone ever sign neg rep. It sortof became a way of saying "I don't like what you said, but I'm too lazy to actually explain why, so I'm just gonna neg rep you with some obnoxious comment". It seemed contrary to the point of having a discussion board if people were just making negative comments without allowing for any discussion.
Overall, IMO the system was not constructive and didn't really help the community police itself.
orcishgamer
Mad and Green
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Posted November 26, 2012
BlueMooner: I just read an OP from a thread here, and didn't like their post, so I gave them -1. As I did so, I wondered whether I should say anything, or whether that would be rude. I decided not to post, but it got me thinking on how others feel on the issue.
People are very free with giving out +1s for game giveaways and saying so, but never seem to mention -1s. Would you want to know if somebody didn't like your post? Would you want to know why? Or would that just depress you and you'd wish they'd kept silent?
If the only thing someone has to say to me is "-1" then they probably don't have anything thought provoking to say, they just had a visceral reaction to my comment. That's fine, but I don't much care about those. If everyone gives me a "-1" at once, I probably already knew what I was saying was going to get on most folks' nerves and decided to say it anyway. People are very free with giving out +1s for game giveaways and saying so, but never seem to mention -1s. Would you want to know if somebody didn't like your post? Would you want to know why? Or would that just depress you and you'd wish they'd kept silent?
Long story short: if you have something worthwhile to say, say it, if not -1 is probably a waste of time.
Ivory&Gold: You have to downrep when you want to report genuine spam. Apart from that, there's no good reason to do it.
It's petty and childish (feel free to downrep my post, that'll show me) and does no good, but plenty of harm. We've had at least two forum users who were driven insane by all the downrepping they got and went on to shit all over the forum for freaking months.
When you have a problem with something, say it, here on the forum or via PM.
And this, right here, is why I typically downrep. The only other times I did it was because the comment was so genuinely offensive I wanted to give people more of a chance to avoid it by making it's collapsed by default. I can say that that's been a mere handful of times.It's petty and childish (feel free to downrep my post, that'll show me) and does no good, but plenty of harm. We've had at least two forum users who were driven insane by all the downrepping they got and went on to shit all over the forum for freaking months.
When you have a problem with something, say it, here on the forum or via PM.
Post edited November 26, 2012 by orcishgamer
hedwards
buy Evil Genius
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Posted November 26, 2012
TBH, I rarely bother one way or the other. When I do down rep, I tend to do an entire string of replies as it's become obvious after the fact that I was dealing with a troll. Or somebody who is unredeemably stupid. In either case a downrep because I can't push a button to slap them.
ginsengsamurai
Submerged Toe
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Posted November 26, 2012
Since joining, I haven't given anyone a -1 yet as I remember. The only time I would give anyone a -1 is if they are blatantly trolling and trying to cause an unfair mess of things.
Not even in a 'heated' political debate here have I down rated anyone, even though I disagree with them and their attitude.
As far as knowing why someone down rated me, I am not so curious because I've learned the following in my years on the net:
1) There are more stupid people in this world than there are intelligent people and even then, those stupid people won't realize this at all.
2) Ignorance is the number two reason why people get down voted in anything. Pride (to win) is the number one reason.
Since those are the main reasons why people down vote anyone, I simply am not curious enough as to why people might down vote me. I cannot be bothered to try to comprehend gibberish, skewered ideals and unyielding arrogance.
In a real debate between two or more people with the sensibility of looking at both sides, making compromises and showing common courtesy, I would ONLY then be interested in knowing why someone disagrees with me and possibly down votes me. Otherwise, I am just not interested.
NOT interested: Other person says: "I down voted you because you're an idiot!"
SOMEWHAT interested: Other person says: "I down voted you because your opinion on Might & Magic 1 being utterly lame clashes with my opinion. Though I respect your right to an opinion, I must down vote you. My apologies."
Not even in a 'heated' political debate here have I down rated anyone, even though I disagree with them and their attitude.
As far as knowing why someone down rated me, I am not so curious because I've learned the following in my years on the net:
1) There are more stupid people in this world than there are intelligent people and even then, those stupid people won't realize this at all.
2) Ignorance is the number two reason why people get down voted in anything. Pride (to win) is the number one reason.
Since those are the main reasons why people down vote anyone, I simply am not curious enough as to why people might down vote me. I cannot be bothered to try to comprehend gibberish, skewered ideals and unyielding arrogance.
In a real debate between two or more people with the sensibility of looking at both sides, making compromises and showing common courtesy, I would ONLY then be interested in knowing why someone disagrees with me and possibly down votes me. Otherwise, I am just not interested.
NOT interested: Other person says: "I down voted you because you're an idiot!"
SOMEWHAT interested: Other person says: "I down voted you because your opinion on Might & Magic 1 being utterly lame clashes with my opinion. Though I respect your right to an opinion, I must down vote you. My apologies."
Post edited November 26, 2012 by ginsengsamurai
ABH20
Kneel before Zod
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From Australia
Posted November 26, 2012
It would be good if hiding a post and giving the post a negative rating were separate things.
Ivory&Gold
Utterly depraved
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From Germany
Posted November 26, 2012
See, even a downvote is a reaction, the one thing a troll really craves. The only effective way of fighting trolls is to ignore them. "Don't feed the trolls!"
olanorig
gogers
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From Philippines
Posted November 27, 2012
I once bash the downrep button on someone because of calling me names, and I don't have to explain it to him.
I think it happened while I defended GOG on the issue of CDPR issuing of sue letters.
I think it happened while I defended GOG on the issue of CDPR issuing of sue letters.
Wishbone
Red herring
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From Denmark
Posted November 27, 2012
No, it's not. Think it through. Consider the implications of giving people from the internet access to anonymous PMs. If you could see who was behind every downvote, do you think there'd be nearly so many of them? And then you don't think an anonymous PM system would be abused?